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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Models

#3201 Postby PTrackerLA » Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:26 pm

The GFDL needs some serious upgrades. I remember last year it was one of the last models taking Irene to Florida and the list can go on and on for years. I wonder why the NHC still even mentions it.
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#3202 Postby crimi481 » Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:28 pm

Crazy as may sound... ULL near Yucatan may shread ernie and transfer the energy north - feeding the wave -which is crawling W. over florida.? We have seen lots of this in our zone of tropics-over last few years.

http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/geo/index ... thod=flash

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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#3203 Postby Sanibel » Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:30 pm

It might be re-firing a center burst right now.
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#3204 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:31 pm

Sadly it appears El Nino-like effects can be seen in the ATL. Might not be a great year for strong storms and it appears our streak of no Cat 5's just might continue. I think if anything, the models were picking up on this and that was something that could not be measured by our human eyes, it just is.


I'm no pro, I am just an amateur. I always figured this storm would potentially show me how this season may go and it appears it may be a season of struggling weak storms, leading into the inevitable El Nino. Good thing for the NGOM. In a pure neutral season Ernesto could have been a disaster.
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#3205 Postby Hammy » Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:38 pm

bringing out my final advisory call: if not at 5 tonight then certainly by 11 unless something drastically changes before then

decent swirl there but i guess its just moving too fast to be able to close off at the surface

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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#3206 Postby crimi481 » Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:40 pm

Weatherfreak000 wrote:Sadly it appears El Nino-like effects can be seen in the ATL. Might not be a great year for strong storms and it appears our streak of no Cat 5's just might continue. I think if anything, the models were picking up on this and that was something that could not be measured by our human eyes, it just is.


I'm no pro, I am just an amateur. I always figured this storm would potentially show me how this season may go and it appears it may be a season of struggling weak storms, leading into the inevitable El Nino. Good thing for the NGOM. In a pure neutral season Ernesto could have been a disaster.


Yes sir -well said. Same to be said for approx 80% of storms that were in the gulf & W. Carib regions over Past 2 years. (right after the Gulf Oil incident)
Little off topic..
In each instance, NHC /Models al agreed each storm would strenthen -and that all conditions were favorable for a cane forming -and into gulf
Then 12-24 hours later - Storms seemed to Disperse in front of out eyes.
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#3207 Postby jinftl » Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:41 pm

Is el nino-induced shear different than shear? Models may not be programmed to pick up the impact stealth el nino shear!!!

Maybe it's just that every storm isn't going to be Katrina? Put it this way - next storm up is Gordon. The Gordon that hit effected Florida in 1991 formed in November. We just set a record for the 3rd earliest date (after 2005 and 1936) for reaching the 6th named storm. Maybe we have that el nino that produces record # of storms and then shears them to our dismay!


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Weatherfreak000 wrote:Sadly it appears El Nino-like effects can be seen in the ATL. Might not be a great year for strong storms and it appears our streak of no Cat 5's just might continue. I think if anything, the models were picking up on this and that was something that could not be measured by our human eyes, it just is.


I'm no pro, I am just an amateur. I always figured this storm would potentially show me how this season may go and it appears it may be a season of struggling weak storms, leading into the inevitable El Nino. Good thing for the NGOM. In a pure neutral season Ernesto could have been a disaster.
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#3208 Postby Andrew92 » Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:57 pm

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Ernesto does look very sick today, as the GFS and Euro have been suggesting all along. But remember that these models also show Ernesto as a stronger storm in the Bay of Campeche than in the Caribbean. Ernesto likely won't be a hurricane when it reaches the Yucatan, but I think it will survive into the Bay and then could ramp up quite a bit when it gets there. Many storms have done so over the years, even one in an El Nino year, as you will see in my next weekly prediction in the Talkin' Tropics forum. My rough draft is written and is subject to updates depending on what happens today, but the prediction will be posted around 11 PM EDT tonight.

I will also try to remember to hotlink that prediction to this thread - something new I'm going to try this year that I hadn't thought of before.

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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#3209 Postby Sanibel » Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:58 pm

In case you haven't noticed it's re-firing deep convection.
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#3210 Postby Steve H. » Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:58 pm

Ernesto is beginning to re-fire. I think he is still a player in the GOM. Ernie is gonna lose the glasses over the next 48 hours :wink:
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#3211 Postby dixiebreeze » Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:59 pm

The fat lady isn't even humming, so we might want to hold off a bit on an Ernesto Obit.
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#3213 Postby wxwatcher1999 » Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:04 pm

is he starting to get a blowup of convection right now?
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#3214 Postby tolakram » Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:15 pm

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#3215 Postby Zeno8 » Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:23 pm

wxwatcher1999 wrote:is he starting to get a blowup of convection right now?

yes
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#3216 Postby tolakram » Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:26 pm

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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#3217 Postby wxwatcher1999 » Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:29 pm

anybody think it has time to regain strength before making landfall
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#3218 Postby Macrocane » Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:29 pm

Ernesto doesn't wanna go, just when it seemed over the convection rebuild over the center, of course it has to persist for re-intensification to occur, but the latest blob will help him to survive.
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#3219 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:30 pm

When does recon take off? 2015z is for tomorrow.
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#3220 Postby Zeno8 » Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:31 pm

'CaneFreak wrote:Queen has a message they would like to share with everyone: :lol:


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