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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Models

#3881 Postby Rgv20 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:44 pm

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Hurricaneman wrote:The way the GFS has performed with this getting the exact track nearly right from over a week out, the GFS is the new king of the models


On a shorter term, did yesterday's 12z or last night's 0z GFS capture the northwest movement of the storm over the last 6-8 hours?


I dont think so both the ECMWF and GFS almost had it crashing in CA and then the WNW movement should have begun.

12zECMWF did not initialize Ernesto very well...it has it as a broad 1009 mb low..
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#3882 Postby hurricanes1234 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:44 pm

And there we go with the same intensity for hours upon hours upon hours, again and again and again..........

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#3883 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:48 pm

Ernesto's eyewall is still in its formative stages. Once it mixes out the dry air (it's in the process of doing that) and strengthens it up a little, I think we'll see some big things happen with the storm. It is moving into perfect conditions after all.
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#3884 Postby crimi481 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:50 pm

Hope this Loop link works?
http://weather.hawaii.edu/satellite/sat ... type=flash

Good view of W.V. Shows smewhat of a streaming of Ernies moisture -transferring to S. Fl Straits - and to small Low in Panhandle
Pulling in N. Quad of Ernie. (my take on W.V. Sat Loop)
Seems like very compliated dynamics -all around area. Or - is it simpler than appears.

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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Models

#3885 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:51 pm

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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#3886 Postby tailgater » Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:56 pm

Jogging back to the west from the looks of it.

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... is_floater
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#3887 Postby ROCK » Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:56 pm

crimi481 wrote:Hope this Loop link works?
http://weather.hawaii.edu/satellite/sat ... type=flash

Good view of W.V. Shows smewhat of a streaming of Ernies moisture -transferring to S. Fl Straits - and to small Low in Panhandle
Pulling in N. Quad of Ernie. (my take on W.V. Sat Loop)
Seems like very compliated dynamics -all around area. Or - is it simpler than appears.

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nice loop....you can see the trof digging in the midwest....hmmmm
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#3888 Postby tolakram » Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:01 pm

Latest. Odd looking structure, almost looks like the eyewall convection has collapsed.

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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#3889 Postby wxman57 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:03 pm

With the upper low dipping into the BoC now, Ernesto will probably track more NW for the next 24-36 hours. Beyond then, the low moves out of the picture and the ridge rebuilds a bit across the northern Gulf. That should steer Ernesto westward to southern Mexico for its final landfall. I think it'll probably move inland north of Belize due to the initial NW motion. Intensification appears to have stopped. Maybe no hurricane today.
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#3890 Postby tolakram » Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:04 pm

And this loops seems to confirm that. Old Ernie just can't be predictable. :)

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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#3891 Postby crimi481 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:05 pm

ROCK wrote:
crimi481 wrote:Hope this Loop link works?
http://weather.hawaii.edu/satellite/sat ... type=flash

Good view of W.V. Shows smewhat of a streaming of Ernies moisture -transferring to S. Fl Straits - and to small Low in Panhandle
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nice loop....you can see the trof digging in the midwest....hmmmm


The Infared -color loop on that site is pretty cool as well
Ernie did jog west again. Memories of Mitch? (lost steering currents) For now -steering currents pretty week.
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#3892 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:06 pm

I'm not so confident he's weakening though. Appears as if his motion has stabilized. Wxman47 I have read in the news that the trof should actually be rather persistent and stick around for a while, care to share thoughts on that? Is it possible it could stick around, and what are any possible effects on track?
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#3893 Postby Wx_Warrior » Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:06 pm

Good job by models on this one. Time for myself to start looking what's next down the road for the tropics.
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#3894 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:09 pm

Wx_Warrior wrote:Good job by models on this one. Time for myself to start looking what's next down the road for the tropics.


Off-Topic=You will have plenty to see at the Models thread at Talking Tropics forum.
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#3895 Postby wxman57 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:10 pm

It just goes to show how minor changes in the atmosphere can have a big impact on a hurricane. Some (not here) were saying it was the higher oceanic heat content that produced or greatly contributed to this morning's strengthening. If so, then what's happening now? Oh well, back to nearly a wave by tonight ... Bones remains seated. ;-)
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#3896 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:15 pm

Ernesto's intensification process is being halted by daytime heating. Just wait until the sun goes down, like the other day.
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#3897 Postby gatorcane » Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:16 pm

The FIM model did quite well on this system also and called for a Yucatan/BOC system when the system was still east of the leewards. It also intensified the system in the Western Caribbean and that seemed to verify. The model can be found here:

http://fim.noaa.gov/

Then click on the "30km FIM (GSI-GFS init)" link

Here is the 240 hour forecast from the 00Z FIM from back on Aug. 1st...not bad!

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#3898 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:19 pm

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/d ... oom=&time=

I think the current NHC track is still the on. That High is getting stronger
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#3899 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:19 pm

I'd also like to remind everybody that recon reports a continued motion at 305 degrees. There has been no westward turn.
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#3900 Postby wxman57 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:24 pm

Recon left before the westward movement began. I'm measuring an average heading of 270 deg from 1545Z to 1845Z (past 3 hrs) and a speed of 14 kts. During that period, the center wobbled around, occasionally appearing to track a little south of due west.
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