ATL: ERNESTO - Post-Tropical

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#3941 Postby hurricanes1234 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:06 pm

Hammy wrote:I dub thee, Trollnesto

I've essentially given up on trying to figure out what the storm is going to do at this point, such inconsistency with its intensity, not just fluctuations but in many cases making several significant changes back and fourth in organization.


I agree with you, although the storm can be impressive at times, its strength is often overestimated by the models; when Ernesto suddenly intensified this morning, at 5 PM today I believe it was expected to already be a hurricane, look at it. It is still at 65 mph and the pressure has risen. So I agree with you 100% on what you said. Now I am questioning whether Ernesto will be a hurricane at all by tomorrow, when the NHC said it would, given its unpredictable behavior.

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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#3942 Postby lrak » Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:15 pm

Will it stay in the BOC long enough to produce a swell for Texas?

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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#3943 Postby drezee » Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:21 pm

42057 is being bombarded! 17+ ft waves

52mph sustained and Gusts to 60+mph measured...

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.p ... t=E&tz=STN
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#3944 Postby ConvergenceZone » Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:23 pm

WXMAN said I'd say somewhere between an open wave and a Cat 4 when it hits the Yucatan.


Sorry WXMAN, but I can't help but get a chuckle out of that one... :lol:
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#3945 Postby lrak » Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:25 pm

drezee wrote:42057 is being bombarded! 17+ ft waves

52mph sustained and Gusts to 60+mph measured...

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.p ... t=E&tz=STN


Wish that was the BOC buoy :P
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#3946 Postby Sanibel » Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:28 pm

I see a big secondary eyewall on visible zoom.
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#3947 Postby tolakram » Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:34 pm

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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#3948 Postby tolakram » Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:37 pm

Based on the MIMIC-TPW it's does appear some drier air was gulped in.

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#3949 Postby tolakram » Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:40 pm

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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Recon Discussions - Comments - Questions

#3950 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:41 pm

Maybe the crew went to a closer place? Maybe to Cozumel? What do you think Dave?
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#3951 Postby SouthDadeFish » Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:43 pm

If anyone is interested, I just finished a blog post on Ernesto. I discuss a track and intensity forecast, as well as a current analysis.

http://canefever.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/atl-22z/
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#3952 Postby hurricanes1234 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:44 pm

What's going on now? An eyewall trying to form? Does anybody think Ernesto is strengthening?
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Recon Discussions - Comments - Questions

#3953 Postby Dave » Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:47 pm

cycloneye wrote:Maybe the crew went to a closer place? Maybe to Cozumel? What do you think Dave?


On the last set of hdobs that we didn't post their heading was NW towards Cozumel. Normally if they were going back to Keesler they'd go thru the Yucatan straits but this time it was more of a NW heading towards Mexico/Yucatan. It would make sense if they did...shorter flight back to the center by refueling on the Yucatan. Plus they stayed a little longer than normal on that last mission, made 5 passes instead of the normal 4 and may have been a little shorter on fuel for the return trip esp for the distance they were from both St Croix & Keesler. Should know either way soon.
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#3954 Postby SouthDadeFish » Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:49 pm

This AMSU pass shows Ernesto's smaller eyewall collapsed:

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#3955 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:54 pm

Appears to be building another larger eyewall. Honestly that looks pretty good, should definitely ramp up tonight.


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#3956 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:55 pm

EWRC?
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#3957 Postby SouthDadeFish » Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:59 pm

Hurricane Andrew wrote:EWRC?


Certainly appears like it to me. Seems like dry air killed off the unstable, small 6-10 nm eyewall earlier, and now a larger one is building. (Just my opinion)
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#3958 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:01 pm

When recon flies, I can take HDOBS for a few.
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#3959 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:03 pm

Hurricane Andrew wrote:EWRC?


Looks that way, dry air mixed it while he was developing his smaller eye and disrupted the circulation. The convection wane appears to resemble that. Too early to tell I would say.


(I am not stating this is what is occurring. Refer to NHC for that information)
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Recon Discussions - Comments - Questions

#3960 Postby ATCcane » Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:05 pm

Would be very unlikely that they went to Cancun and landed except maybe in the case of an emergency. They were likely headed back to Biloxi. There is an airway that runs from the northeastern tip of the Yucatan up to Just south of New Orleans that is used by air traffic when crossing the GOM. When the Hurricane Hunters are doing their missions in the lower altitudes they obviously are operating "on their own", but when up in the higher altitudes such as they were while headed back to the north they are mixing with other aircraft and in a non-radar environment such as the GOM more often than not all aircraft are on a published airway so air traffic control can separate them from other aircraft.
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