ATL: ISAAC - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6941 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:59 am

Stormlover2012 wrote:Yeah 7 mph catches my eye also, euro run could come true with the more west trend



Is this the subtropical high over the gulf states affecting Isaac?
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6942 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:59 am

Chris_in_Tampa wrote:AF is the one that found the low reading. (edit: extrap reading, waiting for sonde) NOAA did extrap 981mb from 8 thousand feet.


Ah, thanks. When I loaded up GE web it showed AF still far from the storm.
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#6943 Postby WeatherGuesser » Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:00 am

rainstorm wrote:even 976 is a cat2


No, it isn't.

Categories are not based on pressure.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6944 Postby StormGuy » Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:01 am

Isaac is crawling now but still moving. It's running out of time now to intensify much. I wouldn't be shocked at this point if he remained a TS all the way until landfall. Not saying that is going to happen, but considering Isaac's history, it wouldn't surprise me at this point. He's still going to pack quite a wallop with flooding rains and significant storm surge. That's the main threat at this point with still some heavy winds to deal with as well.
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#6945 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:02 am

WeatherGuesser wrote:
rainstorm wrote:even 976 is a cat2


No, it isn't.

Categories are not based on pressure.


I agree, and a pro met explained it nicely earlier this morning. Wind has to do with pressure gradient, not pressure. Isaac is a big sprawling low pressure system. Only if Isaac can manage to tighten up it's core will the low pressure translate into higher winds, and fortunately time is running out.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6946 Postby northjaxpro » Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:02 am

CronkPSU wrote:slowed down to 7 mph...


This alone is very troublesome! If Isaac continues on a crawl basically, the flooding and surge issues will be enormous across LA, MS and AL coast. It will also allow Isaac a bit more time over open water to get his act together somewhat and possibly get stacked a bit more and organize better before landfall.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6947 Postby Hogweed » Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:03 am

AF Dropsonde says 977. That 968 isn't confirmed.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6948 Postby fasterdisaster » Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:05 am

Hogweed wrote:AF Dropsonde says 977. That 968 isn't confirmed.


All right, thanks. RI cancel. :roll: :lol:
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6949 Postby WeatherGuesser » Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:06 am

northjaxpro wrote: If Isaac continues on a crawl basically, the flooding and surge issues will be enormous across LA, MS and AL coast.



Which is what happened in Florida and what people have been saying here all along if they read between all the uninformed posts about how the storm is a wimp because it doesn't have 300MPH winds.

Flooding and surge are the issues here. With the angle of approach, this could push an unfortunate amount of water into the mouth of the Mississippi.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6950 Postby Kory » Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:07 am

Stormlover2012 wrote:Yeah 7 mph catches my eye also, euro run could come true with the more west trend

Dude, the track isn't changing...and especially looking at the Euro. That would be the last model I look at right now.

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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6951 Postby w5yne » Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:07 am

No Isaac has slowed down will this result in a more westward movement as though earlier yesterday ?

Thanks
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#6952 Postby SouthDadeFish » Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:08 am

First morning visible shows Isaac is trying to close off an eyewall, but he's missing convection on the northern side:

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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6953 Postby GCANE » Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:08 am

CronkPSU wrote:slowed down to 7 mph...


Looks like a ridge between the two highs may be building

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/d ... oom=&time=
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#6954 Postby bcargile » Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:09 am

WeatherGuesser wrote:
rainstorm wrote:its only chance now



Only chance for what?



To become a hurricane, no?
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#6955 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:09 am

High Values
Flight (30s): 83 knots
Flight (10s): 86 knots
SFMR Surface (10s): 63 knots (about 0.98 in/hr rain rate)
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6956 Postby SouthDadeFish » Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:10 am

Those flight level winds support a 70 knot hurricane if an 80% reduction factor is used.
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#6957 Postby fasterdisaster » Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:12 am

63 knots is close enough that they just might pull the trigger.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6958 Postby senorpepr » Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:12 am

SouthDadeFish wrote:Those flight level winds support a 70 knot hurricane if an 80% reduction factor is used.


I agree... we finally broke that threshold. The 78 kt from earlier reduced down to 62.4, which rounded down. With those winds, that should get the upgrade.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6959 Postby Hogweed » Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:13 am

fasterdisaster wrote:
Hogweed wrote:AF Dropsonde says 977. That 968 isn't confirmed.


All right, thanks. RI cancel. :roll: :lol:



Still 4mb lower than NOAA found 30 mins earlier.
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#6960 Postby RL3AO » Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:14 am

86kt FL. They will certainly up to 65kt.
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