ATL: LESLIE - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: LESLIE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#841 Postby hurricanes1234 » Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:57 pm

Good point, galaxy401, the shear just isn't letting up over this poor system. :roll:

But good season so far, though - we're at our thirteenth named storm, and all of them so far made it above tropical storm status!
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Re: ATL: LESLIE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#842 Postby HurricaneAndrew92 » Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:19 pm

Alright, while most models agree on the blue track..I feel the red track is more likely. Anybody else want to show where they think it should go?
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#843 Postby brunota2003 » Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:39 pm

If you guys wish to draw your own forecasts, S2K does have their own mark up maps, which includes an intensity legend.

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Re: ATL: LESLIE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#844 Postby Cape Bretoner » Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:08 pm

I'm directly below the blue track! :eek:
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Re: ATL: LESLIE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#845 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:13 pm

my track projection

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I also doubt that Leslie will become a category three. The system is large, and will take more time for the winds to ramp up than in a smaller, tighter system.

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Re: ATL: LESLIE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#846 Postby cycloneye » Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:14 pm

00z Best Track is unchanged at 55kts.

AL, 12, 2012090500, , BEST, 0, 252N, 628W, 55, 994, TS

ftp://ftp.nhc.noaa.gov/atcf/tcweb/inves ... 012.invest
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#847 Postby NDG » Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:42 pm

Looking better tonight.

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Re: ATL: LESLIE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#848 Postby hurricanes1234 » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:04 pm

Stalled at 55 knots for about 18 hours now? :(
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#849 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:04 pm

Maybe go up to 60 kt with the partial eyewall?
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#850 Postby hurricanes1234 » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:22 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:Maybe go up to 60 kt with the partial eyewall?


Yeah, 65 mph seems a bit on the low side for a storm this organized. I would also go with 70 mph for the 11 pm package, probably a 75 mph hurricane for the ABSOLUTE most, but this seems quite unlikely. Leslie needs a little more time to organize into a hurricane.

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Re: ATL: LESLIE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#851 Postby cheezyWXguy » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:51 pm

Hybridstorm_November2001 wrote:my track projection

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I also doubt that Leslie will become a category three. The system is large, and will take more time for the winds to ramp up than in a smaller, tighter system.

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Im not so sold that cat3 is out of reach. I know Leslie is a large storm and that rapid fluctuations in intensity are less likely, and Isaac was a perfect example of this...but the difference between the two is that Leslie has a very well organized low level structure, something Isaac didnt have until it was actually making landfall. Leslie's circulation has been well formed for quite sometime now, even despite the significant displacement of convection from its center up until yesterday or today. Now that Leslie actually has convection over the center, we are already seeing convective bands trying to set up into a primitive partial eyewall. We have also seen that Leslie is capable of produce extremely deep and persistent convection, especially for its latitude, over the past couple days despite the strong shear. Because of this, I'm really not sure how strong I think Leslie could get once the shear fully backs off, but I'd be hesitant to hold its upper limit to a cat2.
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Re: ATL: LESLIE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#852 Postby ozonepete » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:01 pm

:uarrow: Yup, cheesy. This has a very symmetric circulation envelope as well and once shear drops off the entire circulation should start producing convection. I've seen a lot of TCs this size make category 3 once shear relaxed.
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Re: ATL: LESLIE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#853 Postby Macrocane » Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:11 pm

It seems to me that the shear has decreased significantly compared with the past few days as the cyclone looks better organized and the center hasn't been completely exposed since 12 hours ago.
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#854 Postby Hammy » Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:52 pm

satellite appearance and evolution is reminding me alot of Claudette off of Texas in 2003 (pictures for reference)

http://199.9.2.143/tcdat/tc03/ATL/04L.C ... TE.04L.jpg
http://199.9.2.143/tcdat/tc03/ATL/04L.C ... TE.04L.jpg
http://199.9.2.143/tcdat/tc03/ATL/04L.C ... TE.04L.jpg
http://199.9.2.143/tcdat/tc03/ATL/04L.C ... TE.04L.jpg

similar system that started wrapping around while undergoing moderate wind shear
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Re: ATL: LESLIE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#855 Postby brunota2003 » Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:23 pm

Updated wind graphic for TS Leslie. Finally some hurricane force winds on there, Bermuda looks like they probably will be receiving at least 50 knot winds. Keep an eye out, Bermuda.

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#856 Postby MJS1 » Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:15 am

There is an upper level low over South Florida..I stick to my forecast that Leslie will head west somewhere between WPB and the Florida Keys,,High pressure tends to move towards low pressure..The longer it stays immobile,the greater the chance it will move west, depending on the ULL strength

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Re: ATL: LESLIE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#857 Postby HurricaneAndrew92 » Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:30 am

My track...
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#858 Postby floridasun78 » Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:46 am

MJS1 wrote:There is an upper level low over South Florida..I stick to my forecast that Leslie will head west somewhere between WPB and the Florida Keys,,High pressure tends to move towards low pressure..The longer it stays immobile,the greater the chance it will move west, depending on the ULL strength

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no way it will go to fl
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#859 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:49 am

20120905 1145 25.9 62.4 T3.5/3.5 12L LESLIE
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#860 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:51 am

AL, 12, 2012090512, , BEST, 0, 256N, 628W, 60, 990, TS

Up to 60 kt.
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