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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion
Does anybody else notice the striking resemblance of Alberto from 2006?


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Convection is firing near the center and 96L is gaining more more banding. It is significantly better organized than yesterday, and will likely be a tropical storm tomorrow.
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TropicalAnalystwx13 wrote:Convection is firing near the center and 96L is gaining more more banding. It is significantly better organized than yesterday, and will likely be a tropical storm tomorrow.
Let's see first what recon finds on Saturday afternoon,if they go.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion
hurricanefloyd5 wrote:Is the low north of the Yucatan channel?
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/flash-vis.html
It is just emerging north from that area.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion
Bryan Norcross discussion on Facebook:
The low pressure area in the Gulf appears to be organizing tonight just north of Cancun. It's likely that Tropical Depression #4 will form there on Saturday. The long-term forecast, however, is VERY uncertain. The center of the system appears to be a little south and east of where the computer simulations (the models) thought it would be this evening, so that puts question marks on their soluti...ons. But beyond that, the upper-air pattern forecast of the most reliable models is quite different. In the short term, the upper pattern looks favorable for some strengthening while the system is in the southern Gulf. As it drifts north, however, the pattern becomes marginal and would likely keep the system from getting too strong. Still, by Sunday, there's a decent chance the system (TD #4 or Tropical Storm Debby) will be strong enough to cause dangerous waves and water rise on the northern Gulf coast. After that, forecasts dramatically diverge, with three scenarios. The American GFS model crawls a fairly weak system over Florida early in the weak with drenching rain and gusty winds. The European model takes a strong system - maybe a hurricane - west toward Texas or Mexico midweek. In addition, other American hurricane models keep the system very weak in the Gulf. Over the past few years, the European model has been the most accurate, but it has also been completely wrong on occasion. Once the system consolidates, the hope is that the models will come together so a more confident forecast can be made. The bottom line for now, everybody on the Gulf coast needs to stay informed this weekend, and be aware that a large circulation is going to cause dangerous conditions in the water and along some part of the coast over the next few to several days.
The low pressure area in the Gulf appears to be organizing tonight just north of Cancun. It's likely that Tropical Depression #4 will form there on Saturday. The long-term forecast, however, is VERY uncertain. The center of the system appears to be a little south and east of where the computer simulations (the models) thought it would be this evening, so that puts question marks on their soluti...ons. But beyond that, the upper-air pattern forecast of the most reliable models is quite different. In the short term, the upper pattern looks favorable for some strengthening while the system is in the southern Gulf. As it drifts north, however, the pattern becomes marginal and would likely keep the system from getting too strong. Still, by Sunday, there's a decent chance the system (TD #4 or Tropical Storm Debby) will be strong enough to cause dangerous waves and water rise on the northern Gulf coast. After that, forecasts dramatically diverge, with three scenarios. The American GFS model crawls a fairly weak system over Florida early in the weak with drenching rain and gusty winds. The European model takes a strong system - maybe a hurricane - west toward Texas or Mexico midweek. In addition, other American hurricane models keep the system very weak in the Gulf. Over the past few years, the European model has been the most accurate, but it has also been completely wrong on occasion. Once the system consolidates, the hope is that the models will come together so a more confident forecast can be made. The bottom line for now, everybody on the Gulf coast needs to stay informed this weekend, and be aware that a large circulation is going to cause dangerous conditions in the water and along some part of the coast over the next few to several days.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models
Model average/consensus TVCN shows Panama City FL according to 00z & it Agrees with climatology/Clipper5


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hurricanefloyd5 wrote:TropicalAnalystwx13 wrote:Just northeast.
of the Y.C. right?
Yes.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion
Vorticity is increasing.


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0zNam forecast valid for Monday Morning.....Strongest run yet. Looks like its a tad to fast IMO.


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[quote="Rgv20"]0zNam forecast valid for Monday Morning.....Strongest run yet. Looks like its a tad to fast IMO.
that is a lot stronger than any of the runs to date. I have been watching it really closely for the trof position...
that is a lot stronger than any of the runs to date. I have been watching it really closely for the trof position...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion
that picture of Claudette
had me fooled for a second....I was like what in the world, I have only been away for a few hours...... 


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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion
The 00z TAFB Surface Analysis.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models
Looks interesting. We will have to wait and see what developes in the coming days. Models seem to be split as to where this thing goes...
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ROCK wrote:that is a lot stronger than any of the runs to date. I have been watching it really closely for the trof position...
Me too I look at the NAM for the 500mb Charts. On a side note the NAM agrees really well with the 12zUKMET and ECMWF. I think the NAM has gotten a little bit better regarding the Tropics (Compare to years past! lol) Anyway it has landfall at Brownsville on Tuesday Morning.

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