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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#41 Postby SFLcane » Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:54 pm

Hmm....

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#42 Postby tropicwatch » Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:54 pm

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#43 Postby gatorcane » Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:56 pm

Sea surface temperatures are very warm across the area. I am seeing some mid 80s along the SE Coast of Florida and through the Bahamas. Good "rocket fuel" for this disturbance for sure. Tonight during DMAX ought to be very interesting as far as convection if we are seeing this as we head towards DMIN.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#44 Postby Sanibel » Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:57 pm

Those Bahamian islands should act as speed brakes for Florida.
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#45 Postby Weatherboy1 » Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:58 pm

Issue in terms of potential strength ... IF ... we get a TD out of this is that it just doesn't have a lot of time to get its act together. I certainly don't see this thing spinning up into a hurricane unless there's some out-of-the-blue, rapid deepening-type process that gets underway. More than likely is a minimal TS (in my opinion, as always)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#46 Postby Blown Away » Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:03 pm

From a historical perspective, just a handfull of TS that formed in this area that moved towards Florida... So something more than a TD or weak TS is unlikely based on history... That being said, I never thought Ike would go north of 20/60 and goto Texas... :D
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#47 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:06 pm

Sanibel wrote:Those Bahamian islands should act as speed brakes for Florida.

those islands have nil effect..they are flat, they are small and they are surronded by bath water
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#48 Postby Sanibel » Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:07 pm

The convection has formed in tight curvature quickly. I'm not saying this will bomb but that pre-Dvorak shape does not do anything to exclude the possibility. My personal opinion is like the others. TS. But keep an eye on the shape of that convection over the next few hours it might tell you something.


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#49 Postby gatorcane » Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:09 pm

I am amazed in a matter of only several hours or so how it can go from nothing to something like this. Truly amazing.

It seems whatever LLC was there and exposed is sliding under the deep convection that just started blowing up...what is going to happen next I wonder? :eek:
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#50 Postby tolakram » Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:13 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#51 Postby AJC3 » Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:15 pm

Pretty respectable M/I pass at 1641 UTC...

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#52 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:15 pm

If it develops, warnings would be needed immediately, so the NHC cannot wait for persistence in this case. If it develops a surface circulation, they would need to immediately call it TD6 and issue advisories at the first possible moment.
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#53 Postby ronjon » Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:18 pm

Weatherboy1 wrote:Issue in terms of potential strength ... IF ... we get a TD out of this is that it just doesn't have a lot of time to get its act together. I certainly don't see this thing spinning up into a hurricane unless there's some out-of-the-blue, rapid deepening-type process that gets underway. More than likely is a minimal TS (in my opinion, as always)


What do you mean?..according to the models..it has another 36-48 hours over water.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#54 Postby SFLcane » Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:20 pm

Should definitely see some orange at next TWO

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#55 Postby gatorcane » Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:21 pm

I wonder if they are going to fly a plane into this maybe later today or tonight?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#56 Postby Blown Away » Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:21 pm

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MELBOURNE FL
313 PM EDT WED SEP 10 2014

.DISCUSSION...
TONIGHT-THU...LOW/MID LEVEL RIDGE TO OUR NORTH WILL PRODUCE A DEEP
ONSHORE WIND FLOW. LOW LEVEL SWIRL NOTED JUST EAST OF THE
NORTHERNMOST BAHAMAS LOOKS RATHER WELL INITIALIZED BY THE GFS. THE
MODEL PUSHES THE FEATURE SLOWLY WEST TO NEAR GRAND BAHAMA LATE
THU. NHC IS MONITORING THIS FOR POTENTIAL FURTHER DEVELOPMENT
DURING THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS


NWS Melbourne nibbling, but have not taken the hook yet... :D
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#57 Postby jhpigott » Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:22 pm

some of the convection to the NW of low level turning is starting to come into range of Melbourne's long range radar

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#58 Postby SFLcane » Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:22 pm

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#59 Postby Weatherboy1 » Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:24 pm

ronjon wrote:
Weatherboy1 wrote:Issue in terms of potential strength ... IF ... we get a TD out of this is that it just doesn't have a lot of time to get its act together. I certainly don't see this thing spinning up into a hurricane unless there's some out-of-the-blue, rapid deepening-type process that gets underway. More than likely is a minimal TS (in my opinion, as always)


What do you mean?..according to the models..it has another 36-48 hours over water.


If there's anything we've seen this season, it's that rapid intensification of systems just ain't happenin'. Plus, the center may move over Grand Bahamas which, while flat and surrounded by water, would likely at least provide some marginal resistance to strengthening. Doesn't mean it's not POSSIBLE, just that it's IMPROBABLE that it gets any stronger than a minimal TS. That's only my opinion, of course, so we do have to watch just in case.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#60 Postby ronjon » Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:24 pm

Blown Away wrote:
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MELBOURNE FL
313 PM EDT WED SEP 10 2014

.DISCUSSION...
TONIGHT-THU...LOW/MID LEVEL RIDGE TO OUR NORTH WILL PRODUCE A DEEP
ONSHORE WIND FLOW. LOW LEVEL SWIRL NOTED JUST EAST OF THE
NORTHERNMOST BAHAMAS LOOKS RATHER WELL INITIALIZED BY THE GFS. THE
MODEL PUSHES THE FEATURE SLOWLY WEST TO NEAR GRAND BAHAMA LATE
THU. NHC IS MONITORING THIS FOR POTENTIAL FURTHER DEVELOPMENT
DURING THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS


NWS Melbourne nibbling, but have not taken the hook yet... :D



LOL, Tony (AJC3) probably wrote that!
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