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#461 Postby psyclone » Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:32 am

WPBWeather wrote:
psyclone wrote:i agree with the above post....1 in 1000. it's a lotto ticket at best. and there were plenty of us in this thread who were rightly skeptical of this thing becoming anything of consequence all along. Loving this late October weather here on the central florida gulf coast...warm sunny days and clear cool nights. current dewpoint in Tampa is 55...talk about a sterile, non tropical atmosphere.


Just move a little farther south in FL and there is plenty of tropical moisture. I do not know how posters who have had bad model data for the last few days can be so sure of their pronouncements. The corrected models runs will not start until later today.

Even south florida and the keys will be scoured out for the weekend. Enjoy the upcoming fair weather.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Remnant Low - Discussion

#462 Postby cycloneye » Thu Oct 23, 2014 12:29 pm

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
200 PM EDT THU OCT 23 2014

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

The remnants of Tropical Depression Nine over the southern Yucatan
peninsula are expected to move eastward over the northwestern
Caribbean Sea by late Friday. This system has a small chance of
regeneration if it does not become absorbed by a cold front in two
or three days.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...10 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...10 percent.


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#463 Postby gatorcane » Thu Oct 23, 2014 12:35 pm

850MB vorticity still pretty good:

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Re: ATL: NINE - Remnant Low - Discussion

#464 Postby wxman57 » Thu Oct 23, 2014 12:50 pm

It's now Invest 94L. No change in development potential (little or none).
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ATL: HANNA - Remnants - Discussion

#465 Postby cycloneye » Thu Oct 23, 2014 12:51 pm

This new invest is for the Remnants of TD NINE so all the discussions will be posted here.

AL, 94, 2014102318, , BEST, 0, 181N, 900W, 20, 1007, LO

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
200 PM EDT THU OCT 23 2014

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

The remnants of Tropical Depression Nine over the southern Yucatan
peninsula are expected to move eastward over the northwestern
Caribbean Sea by late Friday. This system has a small chance of
regeneration if it does not become absorbed by a cold front in two
or three days.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...10 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...10 percent.

Forecaster Blake


Thread that was the topic for TD NINE/Remnants.

viewtopic.php?f=59&t=116882&start=0
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Re: ATL: NINE - Remnant Low - Discussion

#466 Postby cycloneye » Thu Oct 23, 2014 12:52 pm

Due that this has now has been designated as Invest 94L,this thread will be locked and the discussions will be posted at the Invest 94L discussion thread.
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#467 Postby gatorcane » Thu Oct 23, 2014 12:55 pm

New convection burst a little south of the center of this invest, saved image below:

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#468 Postby WPBWeather » Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:03 pm

Yep, I thought there would be one.
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#469 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:14 pm

Seriously? I'm just speechless. :roll:
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#470 Postby wxman57 » Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:22 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:Seriously? I'm just speechless. :roll:


Remember, the designation of an "invest" does not imply increased (or any) development potential. It simply means that someone at the NHC wants to continue to run models on the remnants of TD Nine.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#471 Postby cycloneye » Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:50 pm

Text of 18z Best Track:

At 1800 UTC, 23 October 2014, LOW INVEST (AL94) was located in the North Atlantic basin at 18.1°N and 90°W. The current intensity was 20 kt and the center was moving at 5 kt at a bearing of 130 degrees. The minimum central pressure was 1007 mb.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#472 Postby Sanibel » Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:13 pm

The center is starting to move towards water now. If you think this is weak take a look at the surface spiral entrained to the Low center in the Gulf. Then look at the black IR bursts in the shear displaced convection near Cuba.

I don't see a 130 degree track. More like 105-110.



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#473 Postby HurriGuy » Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:35 pm

A rotation is still evident over land. I would think it would have to continue until the front pulls out so it stops stealing all it's resources.

Or the front takes it with it and this show can finally end
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#474 Postby floridasun78 » Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:36 pm

Sanibel wrote:The center is starting to move towards water now. If you think this is weak take a look at the surface spiral entrained to the Low center in the Gulf. Then look at the black IR bursts in the shear displaced convection near Cuba.

I don't see a 130 degree track. More like 105-110.



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not suppose move over water untill sat not tonight what nhc show when was td9
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#475 Postby HurriGuy » Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:39 pm

http://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/post-goes

Huge trail of extremely dry air behind it.

Circulation to needs to emerge down next to Belize if it wants a shot AND wait it out the next couple of days
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#476 Postby gatorcane » Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:45 pm

floridasun78 wrote:
Sanibel wrote:The center is starting to move towards water now. If you think this is weak take a look at the surface spiral entrained to the Low center in the Gulf. Then look at the black IR bursts in the shear displaced convection near Cuba.

I don't see a 130 degree track. More like 105-110.



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not suppose move over water untill sat not tonight what nhc show when was td9


Supposed to be back over water by late tomorrow, according to the last outlook from NHC:

"The remnants of Tropical Depression Nine over the southern Yucatan
peninsula are expected to move eastward over the northwestern
Caribbean Sea by late Friday."
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#477 Postby wxman57 » Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:47 pm

It's hard to identify a "center" of anything. Convection is decreasing and I don't see much rotation, if any. Clouds seem to be moving SE toward southern Belize. If the GFS hadn't been trying to develop this into a hurricane a few days ago then it would likely go unnoticed today.
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#478 Postby AdamFirst » Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:47 pm

How come a new invest was tagged? For model purposes?
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#479 Postby wxman57 » Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:51 pm

AdamFirst wrote:How come a new invest was tagged? For model purposes?


Yes, someone at the NHC wanted to keep the models going on Nine's remnants in the slight chance that redevelopment would occur in the western Caribbean.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#480 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:07 pm

Whatever low there still is is entering northern Belieze as we speak, may be offshore earlier than thought

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