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#541 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:44 am

Marie deepened from 983 mb to 929 mb in just 24 hours, that's 54 mb. Insane for the EPAC then!
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#542 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:46 am

xtyphooncyclonex wrote:Marie deepened from 983 mb to 929 mb in just 24 hours, that's 54 mb. Insane for the EPAC then!


Not as high as Linda. That was ridiculous.
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#543 Postby euro6208 » Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:49 am

If this goes to 145 knots, it would be the strongest TC worldwide...If 140 knots, then a 4 way tie...
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#544 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:49 am

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xtyphooncyclonex wrote:Marie deepened from 983 mb to 929 mb in just 24 hours, that's 54 mb. Insane for the EPAC then!


Not as high as Linda. That was ridiculous.

By how many mb then for Linda?

If so, Marie is still insane, given that deepened a lot faster than many other Pacific hurricanes.
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#545 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:51 am

UW - CIMSS
ADVANCED DVORAK TECHNIQUE
ADT-Version 8.2.1
Tropical Cyclone Intensity Algorithm

----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 24 AUG 2014 Time : 150000 UTC
Lat : 15:56:59 N Lon : 111:20:52 W


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
6.1 / 940.8mb/117.4kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
6.1 6.7 7.5

Estimated radius of max. wind based on IR : 18 km

Center Temp : +16.3C Cloud Region Temp : -76.1C

Scene Type : EYE

Positioning Method : RING/SPIRAL COMBINATION

Ocean Basin : EAST PACIFIC
Dvorak CI > MSLP Conversion Used : ATLANTIC

Tno/CI Rules : Constraint Limits : 1.3T/6hr
Weakening Flag : OFF
Rapid Dissipation Flag : OFF

C/K/Z MSLP Estimate Inputs :
- Average 34 knot radii : 175km
- Environmental MSLP : 1010mb

Satellite Name : GOES15
Satellite Viewing Angle : 32.9 degrees
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#546 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:51 am

euro6208 wrote:If this goes to 145 knots, it would be the strongest TC worldwide...If 140 knots, then a 4 way tie...

If you base it on atmospheric pressure, Marie could still be stronger than those two [Halong and Genevieve] because of its relatively large size.
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#547 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:52 am

xtyphooncyclonex wrote:
Yellow Evan wrote:
xtyphooncyclonex wrote:Marie deepened from 983 mb to 929 mb in just 24 hours, that's 54 mb. Insane for the EPAC then!


Not as high as Linda. That was ridiculous.

By how many mb then for Linda?

If so, Marie is still insane, given that deepened a lot faster than many other Pacific hurricanes.


72 mbar. From 974 to 902mbar.
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#548 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:54 am

Soccoro Island should be getting TS winds soon. Core should remain well offshore though.
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#549 Postby jaguarjace » Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:59 am

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#550 Postby supercane4867 » Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:59 am

Yellow Evan wrote:
xtyphooncyclonex wrote:Marie deepened from 983 mb to 929 mb in just 24 hours, that's 54 mb. Insane for the EPAC then!


Not as high as Linda. That was ridiculous.

In this case the actual pressure is likely lower than NHC estimates

I recall Hurricane Juliette of 2001 which was also fairly large with a small eye had recon confirmed the pressure to be almost 20mb lower than earlier advisory without recon

I believe both Linda and Rick once dropped below 900mb
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#551 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:07 am

supercane4867 wrote:
Yellow Evan wrote:
xtyphooncyclonex wrote:Marie deepened from 983 mb to 929 mb in just 24 hours, that's 54 mb. Insane for the EPAC then!


Not as high as Linda. That was ridiculous.

In this case the actual pressure is likely lower than NHC estimates

I recall Hurricane Juliette of 2001 which was also fairly large with a small eye had recon confirmed the pressure to be almost 20mb lower than earlier advisory without recon

I believe both Linda and Rick once dropped below 900mb


Agreed. Pressure is almost always lower with recon than satellite.
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#552 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:09 am

Looking at it, I would not be surprised if unconstrained this goes to T7.5.
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#553 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:11 am

ADT's increasing

UW - CIMSS
ADVANCED DVORAK TECHNIQUE
ADT-Version 8.2.1
Tropical Cyclone Intensity Algorithm

----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 24 AUG 2014 Time : 150000 UTC
Lat : 15:56:59 N Lon : 111:20:52 W


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
6.1 / 940.8mb/117.4kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
6.1 6.7 7.5

Estimated radius of max. wind based on IR : 18 km

Center Temp : +16.3C Cloud Region Temp : -76.1C

Scene Type : EYE

Positioning Method : RING/SPIRAL COMBINATION

Ocean Basin : EAST PACIFIC
Dvorak CI > MSLP Conversion Used : ATLANTIC

Tno/CI Rules : Constraint Limits : 1.3T/6hr
Weakening Flag : OFF
Rapid Dissipation Flag : OFF

C/K/Z MSLP Estimate Inputs :
- Average 34 knot radii : 175km
- Environmental MSLP : 1010mb

Satellite Name : GOES15
Satellite Viewing Angle : 32.9 degrees
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#554 Postby supercane4867 » Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:23 am

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#555 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:23 am

UW - CIMSS
ADVANCED DVORAK TECHNIQUE
ADT-Version 8.2.1
Tropical Cyclone Intensity Algorithm

----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 24 AUG 2014 Time : 153000 UTC
Lat : 15:57:05 N Lon : 111:26:32 W


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
6.2 / 938.6mb/119.8kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
6.2 6.7 7.4

Estimated radius of max. wind based on IR : 17 km

Center Temp : +17.2C Cloud Region Temp : -75.7C

Scene Type : EYE

Positioning Method : RING/SPIRAL COMBINATION

Ocean Basin : EAST PACIFIC
Dvorak CI > MSLP Conversion Used : ATLANTIC

Tno/CI Rules : Constraint Limits : 1.3T/6hr
Weakening Flag : OFF
Rapid Dissipation Flag : OFF

C/K/Z MSLP Estimate Inputs :
- Average 34 knot radii : 175km
- Environmental MSLP : 1010mb

Satellite Name : GOES15
Satellite Viewing Angle : 32.9 degrees
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#556 Postby supercane4867 » Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:28 am

18z best track and dvorak bulletin should come out within two hours
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#557 Postby RL3AO » Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:38 am

Thats what a cat 5 looks like on a BD curve.

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#558 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:43 am

Cloud tops warming, but with the large area of whites, that shouldn't stop a 7.0
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#559 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:44 am

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#560 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:45 am

UW - CIMSS
ADVANCED DVORAK TECHNIQUE
ADT-Version 8.2.1
Tropical Cyclone Intensity Algorithm

----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 24 AUG 2014 Time : 160000 UTC
Lat : 15:57:27 N Lon : 111:32:07 W


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
6.4 / 934.1mb/124.6kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
6.4 6.9 7.4

Estimated radius of max. wind based on IR : 19 km

Center Temp : +17.4C Cloud Region Temp : -75.8C

Scene Type : EYE

Positioning Method : RING/SPIRAL COMBINATION

Ocean Basin : EAST PACIFIC
Dvorak CI > MSLP Conversion Used : ATLANTIC

Tno/CI Rules : Constraint Limits : 1.3T/6hr
Weakening Flag : OFF
Rapid Dissipation Flag : OFF

C/K/Z MSLP Estimate Inputs :
- Average 34 knot radii : 175km
- Environmental MSLP : 1010mb

Satellite Name : GOES15
Satellite Viewing Angle : 32.8 degrees
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