ATL: DORIAN - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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#1901 Postby Gustywind » Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:23 am

Increasing numbers for TS Dorian, back to 1.0.


DATE/TIME LAT LON CLASSIFICATION STORM
27/0545 UTC 18.1N 49.0W T1.0/1.0 DORIAN
26/2345 UTC 17.9N 47.1W TOO WEAK DORIAN
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#1902 Postby Gustywind » Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:25 am

Maintaining its TS status....

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WTNT34 KNHC 270832
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TROPICAL STORM DORIAN ADVISORY NUMBER 13
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL042013
500 AM AST SAT JUL 27 2013

...DORIAN CONTINUES MOVING RAPIDLY WESTWARD AS A TROPICAL STORM...


SUMMARY OF 500 AM AST...0900 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...18.2N 50.0W
ABOUT 860 MI...1385 KM E OF THE NORTHERN LEEWARD ISLANDS
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...40 MPH...65 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...W OR 275 DEGREES AT 22 MPH...35 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1011 MB...29.85 INCHES
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#1903 Postby Hurricane Alexis » Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:40 am

Trough is backing to the west. Maybe it can survive after all.


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#1904 Postby NDG » Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:01 am

Gustywind wrote:Maintaining its TS status....

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WTNT34 KNHC 270832
TCPAT4

BULLETIN
TROPICAL STORM DORIAN ADVISORY NUMBER 13
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL042013
500 AM AST SAT JUL 27 2013

...DORIAN CONTINUES MOVING RAPIDLY WESTWARD AS A TROPICAL STORM...

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SUMMARY OF 500 AM AST...0900 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...18.2N 50.0W
ABOUT 860 MI...1385 KM E OF THE NORTHERN LEEWARD ISLANDS
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...40 MPH...65 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...W OR 275 DEGREES AT 22 MPH...35 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1011 MB...29.85 INCHES


IMO, it has slow down some during the night, I estimate it to be near 20 mph if not a little lower.
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#1905 Postby NDG » Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:05 am

Another look at the convection that fired during the night near the COC we are still tracking.

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1906 Postby NDG » Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:33 am

I place the X on the COC I have been tracking all night long, near 18.5N & 50.8W.

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1907 Postby tolakram » Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:43 am

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#1908 Postby NDG » Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:46 am

If you ask me it looks better than yesterday morning, but I admit that the circulation is much weaker than yesterday and yesterday was already weak.

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1909 Postby tolakram » Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:47 am

11:15z

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#1910 Postby tolakram » Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:50 am

0z Euro takes a tropical wave Dorian to the Keys, then lifts up over Florida, exiting NE Florida coast. Looks like a rain maker.

This is a very similar solution to the 6Z GFS, looking at pressure and precip rate.
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#1911 Postby Weatherboy1 » Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:53 am

Well this is one heck of a recovery for Dorian no? I went to bed when he was hardly a naked swirl and now he's looking healthier than in a while. Shear will be an issue soon. But maybe he can hold together after all. We will see!
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#1912 Postby NDG » Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:03 am

BTW, in case nobody has noticed, SHIPS show shear not to get much worst than it is now, if anything during the next 36 hrs it shows shear to drop some. The problem could still be the dry air and could finally kill it by then.

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#1913 Postby NDG » Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:16 am

Hot off the press.
Lol, it looks like some sort of a reptile on this microwave pass :lol:

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#1914 Postby NDG » Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:21 am

12z T numbers keep him at 1.0
Next ASCAT pass better show some tropical force winds otherwise a downgrade to a TD on the next advisory could very well happen.

27/1145 UTC 18.5N 51.1W T1.0/1.0 DORIAN -- Atlantic
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#1915 Postby Alyono » Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:27 am

ASCAT better show a circulation, or downgrade to wave SHOULD happen
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1916 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:34 am

12z Best Track.

AL, 04, 2013072712, , BEST, 0, 183N, 511W, 35, 1011, TS
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#1917 Postby weatherwindow » Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:39 am

SFLcane wrote:
northjaxpro wrote:Well, that TUTT was forecast to weaken and retrograde westward a couple of days ago. If that is beginning to take place now, then conditions ahead of the cyclone are really going to begin to become increasingly conducive. But, is all of this happening too late fr Dorian now? We will know this weekend.


That about sums it up


From the NWS San Juan 0513AST 7/27
"The dominant feature is a TUTT and associated low which sags south thru our area and into the east central Caribbean. The TUTT will continue to retrogress westward during the next few days as an upper ridge builds in from the east and set up across the northeast Caribbean"
http://forecast.weather.gov/product.php ... glossary=1
It would appear that at least this source of shear facing Dorian will lessen considerably over the next few days. Perhaps, this will give Dorian a new lease on life...Grtz from KW, Rich
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#1918 Postby ConvergenceZone » Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:45 am

Weatherboy1 wrote:Well this is one heck of a recovery for Dorian no? I went to bed when he was hardly a naked swirl and now he's looking healthier than in a while. Shear will be an issue soon. But maybe he can hold together after all. We will see!


Well, the NHC would disagree with you. Even in their last data they suggest that Dorian may no longer even have a closed circulation, and that the convection may be short lived. So this may be downgraded sooner than you think....
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#1919 Postby northjaxpro » Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:52 am

Dorian is holding its own so far this morning. The convective burst during the past 6-8 hours has really helped to keep Dorian stay alive for now. The next 36 hours are going to be absolutely critical for Dorian. There is a shear axis just ahead of the system and somehow Dorian is going to have to find a way to get through it. However, the TUTT is finally beginning to weaken and retrograde westward. I think that if Dorian can survive the next 36 hours or so and reach 60 degrees Longitude, the cyclone will find itself in an improving, more hospitable environment. Shear should be decreasing by that time and moisture content around Dorian will be markedly improved.

Dorian is still in critical condition for this weekend, but there is a chance by the end of this weekend that the system may have a resurgance early next week. Again, this weekend will tell the story one way or the other for sure.i
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#1920 Postby NDG » Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:00 am

The reason why the GFS keeps wanting to dissipate Dorian down to barely a water vapor is because it keeps forecasting Dorian to catch up to the UL trough and go underneath the UL trough killing whatever vorticity is left by then.
On the other hand, the ECMWF keeps showing for the UL trough to slowly push south and west and die out some showing better UL conditions north of Hispaniola and the eastern Bahamas than the GFS.
I guess we will see who is right.
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