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Re: ATL: INGRID - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#761 Postby ROCK » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:13 pm

Thanks Scott I didn't know they were flying those recon flights yet..
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Re: ATL: INGRID - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#762 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:17 pm

ROCK wrote:Thanks Scott I didn't know they were flying those recon flights yet..


With a slow season thus far I guess they can spend more on this one... The Gulfstream missions tend to really aid the modeling when their info gets added. I will be really interested if we see any major swings in the models after they digest all that information
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#763 Postby CrazyC83 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:18 pm

I can definitely see the developing eye now on visible satellite...although not on infrared yet.
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#764 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:22 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:I can definitely see the developing eye now on visible satellite...although not on infrared yet.


Yep...sure looks like one is trying to pop out there. The next 3 or 4 future frames will tell if thats a trend or us looking at the screen too much :wink:
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#765 Postby SeGaBob » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:23 pm

There appears to be a very faint eye in the last few frames of this loop... at least I'm not the only one that thinks they see one anyway. :)

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floaters/10L/imagery/vis-animated.gif
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#766 Postby Alyono » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:29 pm

does not yet appear to be an eye... but maybe an overshooting cloud top. That said, an eye could form later today
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Re: ATL: INGRID - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#767 Postby Time_Zone » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:37 pm

Is it trying to clear out an eye? looks like it to me, but I could be wrong.
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Re: ATL: INGRID - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#768 Postby SeGaBob » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:43 pm

Time_Zone wrote:Is it trying to clear out an eye? looks like it to me, but I could be wrong.


It looks like it to me too but Alyono says no for now...
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Re: ATL: INGRID - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#769 Postby vbhoutex » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:45 pm

A quick question for our astute pro-mets and anyone else who has enough knowledge to answer it.
How confident are you that the ridge over TX/LA is going to hold and keep Ingrid on the current forecast track? I always worry when I see a steadily strengthening TC moving towards a ridge that I am under since there are some indications that it could start slipping to the East or be eroded by incoming SWs and open up a weakness the TC could sniff out. I so feel for whoever is under this very wet and strengthening TC at landfall and even after.
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Re: ATL: INGRID - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#770 Postby jinftl » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:45 pm

eye may be forming per NHC...

AT 100 PM CDT...1800 UTC...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM INGRID WAS
LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 20.9 NORTH...LONGITUDE 94.4 WEST. INGRID IS
MOVING TOWARD THE NORTH NEAR 8 MPH...13 KM/H...AND THIS MOTION IS
EXPECTED TO CONTINUE TODAY. A TURN TO THE NORTHWEST AND THEN TO THE
WEST IS ANTICIPATED ON SUNDAY. ON THE FORECAST TRACK...INGRID WILL
REACH THE COAST OF MEXICO WITHIN THE HURRICANE WATCH AREA ON
MONDAY.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 70 MPH...110 KM/H...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. SATELLITE IMAGES AND INFORMATION FROM THE METEOROLOGIST
ONBOARD THE NOAA JET SUGGEST THAT AN EYE COULD FORMING. INGRID WILL
LIKELY BECOME A HURRICANE THIS AFTERNOON.
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Re: ATL: INGRID - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#771 Postby Time_Zone » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:45 pm

SeGaBob wrote:
Time_Zone wrote:Is it trying to clear out an eye? looks like it to me, but I could be wrong.


It looks like it to me too but Alyono says no for now...


I'll take his word for it.
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Re: ATL: INGRID - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#772 Postby Alyono » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:46 pm

vbhoutex wrote:A quick question for our astute pro-mets and anyone else who has enough knowledge to answer it.
How confident are you that the ridge over TX/LA is going to hold and keep Ingrid on the current forecast track? I always worry when I see a steadily strengthening TC moving towards a ridge that I am under since there are some indications that it could start slipping to the East or be eroded by incoming SWs and open up a weakness the TC could sniff out. I so feel for whoever is under this very wet and strengthening TC at landfall and even after.



still no indications of a Texas track. Still looking at a catastrophic flood near Tampico
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Re: ATL: INGRID - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#773 Postby jinftl » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:48 pm

From Dr. Jeff Masters's blog this morning:


All of the models predict that Ingrid's current northerly motion will be short-lived, as a ridge of high pressure builds in to its north and forces the storm nearly due west into Mexico on Monday. The soils along the Mexican Gulf Coast in the state of Veracruz where Ingrid will be dumping some of its heaviest rains are already saturated from the rains of Tropical Depression Eight and Tropical Storm Fernand,. Additional heavy rains affected the region early this week, leading to flash flooding and multiple landslides, including one massive landslide in the town of Manzanatitla on Monday that killed eight people. It won't take much rain to generate a catastrophic flood disaster, and 10 - 15 inches of rain, with isolated amounts of up to 25", are expected.



Alyono wrote:
vbhoutex wrote:A quick question for our astute pro-mets and anyone else who has enough knowledge to answer it.
How confident are you that the ridge over TX/LA is going to hold and keep Ingrid on the current forecast track? I always worry when I see a steadily strengthening TC moving towards a ridge that I am under since there are some indications that it could start slipping to the East or be eroded by incoming SWs and open up a weakness the TC could sniff out. I so feel for whoever is under this very wet and strengthening TC at landfall and even after.



still no indications of a Texas track. Still looking at a catastrophic flood near Tampico
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Re: ATL: INGRID - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#774 Postby HurricaneDREW92 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:49 pm

It's an eye forming for sure

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Re: ATL: INGRID - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#775 Postby ROCK » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:50 pm

:uarrow: ...I am having to pause as well VB.....the loop the globals are showing as its about to make landfall back down into the BOC is very interesting....any delay allows the ridge to back off further down the line. HPC is going with the EURO ensembles....and if you look at them....well I will let you look at them and you can see what I mean... :wink:


http://www.ecmwf.int/products/forecasts ... 00!!!step/
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#776 Postby JGrin87 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:50 pm

anyone got a link to microwave data?
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Re: ATL: INGRID - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#777 Postby jinftl » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:53 pm

Is that the eye popping out on north part of 'green' on image below

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Re: ATL: INGRID - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#778 Postby ndale » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:55 pm

vbhoutex wrote:A quick question for our astute pro-mets and anyone else who has enough knowledge to answer it.
How confident are you that the ridge over TX/LA is going to hold and keep Ingrid on the current forecast track? I always worry when I see a steadily strengthening TC moving towards a ridge that I am under since there are some indications that it could start slipping to the East or be eroded by incoming SWs and open up a weakness the TC could sniff out. I so feel for whoever is under this very wet and strengthening TC at landfall and even after.


Thanks for asking that vbhoutex. I was still waiting for a reply to my question about how accurate models are in predicting the steadfastness or movement of ridges.
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#779 Postby AJC3 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:55 pm

JGrin87 wrote:anyone got a link to microwave data?



NRL mosaic of 87-91GHz M/I passes.

http://tinyurl.com/lmngmzu
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#780 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Sat Sep 14, 2013 1:04 pm

I see an eye trying to form.
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