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#1241 Postby Hammy » Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:29 pm

165 mph at landfall, same as Andrew was.
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#1242 Postby galaxy401 » Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:29 pm

Landfall intensity makes sense.
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#1243 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:30 pm

HURRICANE PATRICIA TROPICAL CYCLONE UPDATE
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP202015
625 PM CDT FRI OCT 23 2015

...CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE PATRICIA MAKES LANDFALL ALONG THE COAST
OF MEXICO WITH 165-MPH WINDS...

Satellite images indicate that the center of the eye of Patricia
made landfall at approximately 615 PM CDT...2315 UTC...along the
coast of southwestern Mexico near Cuixmala. This position is also
about 55 miles...85 km...west-northwest of Manzanillo, Mexico. The
maximum winds were estimated to be 165 mph...270 km/h.


SUMMARY OF 615 PM...2315 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...19.4N 105.0W
ABOUT 55 MI...85 KM WNW OF MANZANILLO MEXICO
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...165 MPH...270 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NNE OR 15 DEGREES AT 14 MPH...22 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...920 MB...27.17 INCHES

$$
Forecaster Blake/Stewart
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#1244 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:33 pm

i doubt the pressure rose that much but none the less powerful.
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Re: EPAC: PATRICIA - Hurricane: History is made

#1245 Postby bahamaswx » Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:34 pm

JPmia wrote:Hey everyone, I have friends in Puerto Vallarta in a very secure hotel. They are asking me (of all people) what they should expect as far as winds in the city. Any quick thoughts?


Cat 1 conditions I would imagine.
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#1246 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:34 pm

iCyclone likely getting hammered by the eastern eyewall.
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#1247 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:35 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:i doubt the pressure rose that much but none the less powerful.


We'll get a good reading soon.
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Re: EPAC: PATRICIA - Hurricane: History is made

#1248 Postby FireRat » Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:39 pm

Numbers just like Andrew, pres 920 mb vs Andy's 922 at landfall with 165 mph winds, just wow! what a surprise to see this thing from one day to the next. Thank goodness this storm weakened so quickly from its 200 mph peak! Still this is a Cat 5, will be a scary sight to see come tomorrow's first light of damage.

the quick pressure rise matches the storm's satellite presentation over the last few hours, it really got more ragged, quite so even for 165 mph...looks can be deceiving sometimes.
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#1249 Postby windnrain » Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:41 pm

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#1250 Postby Sanibel » Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:42 pm

Edit: I think it did a big right wobble and slammed into Chamela







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Re: EPAC: PATRICIA - Hurricane: History is made

#1251 Postby mrbagyo » Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:45 pm

165 mph seems reasonable but I don't think pressure would rise up to 920 hpa that quickly. Pressure usually lags behind the wind
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#1253 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:47 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:i doubt the pressure rose that much but none the less powerful.

Sondes (surface wind speed noted at location with approximate adjustment to likely actual lowest pressure in the storm):

01:35:53pm EDT: 883mb, 45 knots ... 879mb
04:37:34pm EDT: 910mb, 68 knots ... 903mb (NHC went with 900mb for 5pm EDT)

By 7:30pm EDT, a 20mb rise seems very reasonable, if not even more than that. 15 minutes before that, 920mb seems pretty good.
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Re: EPAC: PATRICIA - Hurricane: History is made

#1254 Postby bahamaswx » Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:49 pm

mrbagyo wrote:165 knots seems reasonable but I don't think pressure would rise up to 920 hpa that quickly. Pressure usually lags behind the wind


Both are just educated guesses. The 165mph estimate may well be too high. Time will tell.
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#1255 Postby mrbagyo » Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:52 pm

bahamaswx wrote:
mrbagyo wrote:165 knots seems reasonable but I don't think pressure would rise up to 920 hpa that quickly. Pressure usually lags behind the wind


Both are just educated guesses. The 165mph estimate may well be too high. Time will tell.


Oh my bad. I mean 165 mph not knots.
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Re: EPAC: PATRICIA - Hurricane: History is made

#1256 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Fri Oct 23, 2015 7:01 pm

bahamaswx wrote:
mrbagyo wrote:165 knots seems reasonable but I don't think pressure would rise up to 920 hpa that quickly. Pressure usually lags behind the wind

Both are just educated guesses. The 165mph estimate may well be too high. Time will tell.

Recon seemed to indicate at about 4:30pm EDT that the wind was about 140 to 150 mph, with 150 mph reflective of the SFMR. (which is a 10 second surface estimate) Based on where the high wind was before I think they sampled the region that would have had about the highest winds, with further weakening from there likely.

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#1257 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Oct 23, 2015 7:03 pm

windnrain wrote:https://twitter.com/marcelocordova/status/657703259151429633


Impressive and that's not near the landfall point at all.
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Re: EPAC: PATRICIA - Hurricane: History is made

#1258 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Fri Oct 23, 2015 7:05 pm

A few visible images at the time of landfall:

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From: https://realearth.ssec.wisc.edu/
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Re: EPAC: PATRICIA - Hurricane: History is made

#1259 Postby terstorm1012 » Fri Oct 23, 2015 7:06 pm

you can get a sense of what the little town that is in the eye looked like before view google street view
(Emilano Zapata)

the iCyclone crew apparently rode out Jova in 2011 in the same town http://www.icyclone.com/chases/jova-2011.html
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Re: EPAC: PATRICIA - Hurricane: History is made

#1260 Postby Sanibel » Fri Oct 23, 2015 7:11 pm

Apology: My last post was rotten information because the SSD satellite wasn't calibrated to the coastline correctly.



The landfall was near Cuixmala as progged by NHC. East eyewall into Emiliano Zapata village and Costa Careyes as previously predicted.




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