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#1381 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:35 pm

Bocadude85 wrote:
gatorcane wrote:18Z HWRF looks to have shifted even more east and it has done so with a weaker system too.

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Yup further northeast. Models really have shifted east. I would assume the NHC will follow suit at 11pm


You get the feeling these models are not done shifting east do you?

Not sure if they are getting more data fed into them but seems like they keep shifting.
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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Models

#1382 Postby SouthFLTropics » Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:35 pm

N2FSU wrote:HWRF +90hr

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Looks to already be making a north turn there.

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#1383 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:37 pm

:uarrow: Still moving NW at hour 90 but may wind up missing most of the Bahamas to the east on this run.
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#1384 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:39 pm

Yep, even east of the Bahamas now, another big shift east by the HWRF as the models seem to be latching on to more troughing....

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#1385 Postby abajan » Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:39 pm

Weatherlover12 wrote:
NDG wrote:"FL dodges yet another storm."


To early to say that.. Please use disclaimer.
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Indeed. One of the more glaring omissions of the disclaimer I've seen in a while. Come on, guys. Use the disclaimer. We don't want S2K to get unnecessarily entangled in legal problems.
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#1386 Postby Bocadude85 » Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:41 pm

gatorcane wrote:
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gatorcane wrote:18Z HWRF looks to have shifted even more east and it has done so with a weaker system too.

http://i.imgur.com/BtOBr8Q.png


Yup further northeast. Models really have shifted east. I would assume the NHC will follow suit at 11pm


You get the feeling these models are not done shifting east do you?

Not sure if they are getting more data fed into them but seems like they keep shifting.


It wouldn't surprise me to seem them shift back west at some point. I think the final outcome may be a track over Grand Bahama/Abaco while heading up and out. It's crazy how these models are having such drastic changes from run to run.
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#1387 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:48 pm

HWRF is up and out at 111 hours missing most of the Bahamas now to the east, not even a close call for Florida any longer. What a difference 12 hours makes.
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#1388 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:54 pm

18Z GFDL way east of the Bahamas now with another shift to the east but wow it is going nuts with this thing! :eek:

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#1389 Postby Alyono » Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:58 pm

these model intensity forecasts are beyond laughable. I have no clue why some here are taking these are more than entertainment
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#1390 Postby SunnyThoughts » Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:58 pm

Wow gatorcane 134kt Hopefully won't verify even close to correct in intensity, but staying way East is a good thing and hopefully that does indeed verify.
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#1391 Postby deltadog03 » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:22 pm

Alyono wrote:these model intensity forecasts are beyond laughable. I have no clue why some here are taking these are more than entertainment


I agree...I don't know why they are being given so much weight...Hell, does Erika even get passed PR in tact? I DO think this has a great shot it gets strong but not until it approaches the Bahamas.
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#1392 Postby SeGaBob » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:24 pm

They usually never shift back west... out to sea it is. :roll:




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#1393 Postby SouthFLTropics » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:26 pm

SeGaBob wrote:They usually never shift back west... out to sea it is. :roll:




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This isn't true...I've seen them wipe East and West many times before.

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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Models

#1394 Postby tolakram » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:26 pm

I honestly don't think that many are taking strength into account, I know I'm only looking for track, but it might be a good time to remind newer visitors, nicely, that the models have very little skill when forecasting intensity. :)
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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Models

#1395 Postby tolakram » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:32 pm

HWRF-P, final frame

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#1396 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:33 pm

One thing I noticed is that the 18Z GFS ensembles have more of a tight clustering very close to SE Florida (like right along the coast or over the Gulf stream) - look how many ensemble members are clustered there...with a few over the FL Keys / straights and a few further east over the Bahamas:

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#1397 Postby NDG » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:40 pm

Kohlecane wrote:
Weatherlover12 wrote:
NDG wrote:"FL dodges yet another storm."


To early to say that.. Please use disclaimer.
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Yeah one slight shift of that ridge to the wsw sends this thing into the coast


I was quoting what people would be saying not that I was calling for the clear, of course I know is too early.
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#1398 Postby hurricanekid416 » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:41 pm

Is the gfs trying to loop it back in to the coast?
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#1399 Postby northjaxpro » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:42 pm

hurricanekid416 wrote:Is the gfs trying to loop it back in to the coast?


Yes. This is a plausible scenario as well.
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#1400 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:44 pm

Some of the 00Z guidance has updated and you can see the NHC track is quite a bit to the west now. Even the NAVGEM has shifted more east (not updated yet below) - the ECMWF run tonight will be important. If that has a healthy shift east, then we could be seeing a trend with a bigger trough:

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