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#1401 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:49 pm

Alyono wrote:these model intensity forecasts are beyond laughable. I have no clue why some here are taking these are more than entertainment


I 100% agree I do not post often, and by no means am I a Met you . But so many writing this off as if it was already well north of us is nuts. For one it has not even begun to get stronger, it is still being driven by High pressure to the West or WNW. it is still 5 days out which we all know models are not that great that far out. But for some reason a lot of u r saying recurve. I think the smart thing to do is see once we get a solid storm with a good COC then see what the models do.
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#1402 Postby northjaxpro » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:51 pm

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Alyono wrote:these model intensity forecasts are beyond laughable. I have no clue why some here are taking these are more than entertainment


I 100% agree I do not post often, and by no means am I a Met you . But so many writing this off as if it was already well north of us is nuts. For one it has not even begun to get stronger, it is still being driven by High pressure to the West or WNW. it is still 5 days out which we all know models are not that great that far out. But for some reason a lot of u r saying recurve. I think the smart thing to do is see once we get a solid storm with a good COC then see what the models do.



Smart post and I totally agree with this!!!
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#1403 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:52 pm

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#1404 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:54 pm

northjaxpro wrote:
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Alyono wrote:these model intensity forecasts are beyond laughable. I have no clue why some here are taking these are more than entertainment


I 100% agree I do not post often, and by no means am I a Met you . But so many writing this off as if it was already well north of us is nuts. For one it has not even begun to get stronger, it is still being driven by High pressure to the West or WNW. it is still 5 days out which we all know models are not that great that far out. But for some reason a lot of u r saying recurve. I think the smart thing to do is see once we get a solid storm with a good COC then see what the models do.



Smart post and I totally agree with this!!!


Thank you NorthJaxpro
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#1405 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:02 pm

Two images showing just how much the HWRF has shifted east from last night's 00Z run:

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#1406 Postby northjaxpro » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:07 pm

:uarrow: You are welcome Miami Storm Tracker. All the reasonable scenarios are still on the table with Erika, which most have been covered in detail on this forum. There are so may variables yet to be determined, which is why it is still too soon to know what will happen even 5 days out right now. Models will windshield wiper effect again (I can rest assured of that) and even right now, we still don't have a fully, vertically stacked tropical cyclone at this time. Yes, that could certainly change in a couple of days provided Erika stays intact as she heads toward an seemingly favorable enviromnet to develop north of the Greater Antilles.

I have learned from years of experience the difficulty of forecasting these tropical cyclones and how these systems seemingly march to their own drums. I am expecting more changes in the next 48 hours. But, right now, it is just still too soon to make declarations about the intensity of Erika and where she will eventually end up going.
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#1407 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:09 pm

northjaxpro wrote::uarrow: You are welcome Miami Storm Tracker. All the reasonable scenarios are still on the table with Erika, which most have been covered in detail on this forum. There are so may variables yet to be determined, which is why it is still too soon to know what will happen 5 days out right now. Models will windshield wiper effect again (I can rest assured of that) and even right now, we still don't have a fully, vertically stacked tropical cyclone at this time. Yes, that could certainly change in a couple of days provided Erika stays intact as she heads toward an seemingly favorable enviromnet to develop north of the Greater Antilles.

I have learned from years of experience the difficulty of forecasting these tropical cyclones and how these systems seemingly march to their own drums. I am expecting more changes in the next 48 hours. But, right now, too soon to make declarations about the intensity of Erika and where she will eventually end up going.


Could not agree more with you.
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#1408 Postby otowntiger » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:09 pm

gatorcane wrote:00Z Guidance:

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Nhc likely to shift even further east. At this point I beleive we are past flip flopping and wind shield wiping. Too many consistently east shifting models to ignore. I agree with those who are saying Florida will dodge another one.

Disclaimer: I am not a professional meteorologist and I am only expressing my amateur opinion. Don't make plans based on what I say, lol.
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#1409 Postby toad strangler » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:10 pm

Northjaxpro FTW. I mean, lets be honest, at least 30% of each page is unreadable gibberish. So frustrating.
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#1410 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:12 pm

Good Luck,

Everyone here has their opinion which is what this site is all about. But for me this is really way to early to have this as a for sure outcome.
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#1411 Postby Steve H. » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:13 pm

yes. many of these models are for the deep tropics and don't have validity in shorter term forecasts.
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#1412 Postby TheProfessor » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:15 pm

otowntiger wrote:

Nhc likely to shift even further east. At this point I beleive we are past flip flopping and wind shield wiping. Too many consistently east shifting models to ignore. I agree with those who are saying Florida will dodge another one.

Disclaimer: I am not a professional meteorologist and I am only expressing my amateur opinion. Don't make plans based on what I say, lol.



I wouldn't say the models are past flip flopping just yet, at least for the next 48 hours, like others had said, we need to see how Erika is doing when she gets past Puerto Rico and into the Bahamas.
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#1413 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:16 pm

TheProfessor wrote:
otowntiger wrote:

Nhc likely to shift even further east. At this point I beleive we are past flip flopping and wind shield wiping. Too many consistently east shifting models to ignore. I agree with those who are saying Florida will dodge another one.

Disclaimer: I am not a professional meteorologist and I am only expressing my amateur opinion. Don't make plans based on what I say, lol.



I wouldn't say the models are past flip flopping just yet, at least for the next 48 hours, like others had said, we need to see how Erika is doing when she gets past Puerto Rico and into the Bahamas.



Agreed.
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#1414 Postby Stormcenter » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:17 pm

5 days out and it's done deal in your opinion? I'm sorry but respectfully I disagree. IMO

otowntiger wrote:
gatorcane wrote:00Z Guidance:

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Nhc likely to shift even further east. At this point I beleive we are past flip flopping and wind shield wiping. Too many consistently east shifting models to ignore. I agree with those who are saying Florida will dodge another one.

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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Models

#1415 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:18 pm

Wow,

With all due respect at least pay attention to who posted that. A Pro Met, have a little respect dude.
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#1416 Postby NDG » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:21 pm

If we know and even the NHC knows that the GFDL is so right biased at days 4-5 if not 3-5 why they don't take it out of the equation when it comes to the TVCN, TVCA, ... consensus?
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#1417 Postby Steve H. » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:27 pm

I think they really do. That's why they gave much greater weight to the GFS and EC in the last advisory.
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#1418 Postby northjaxpro » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:31 pm

The EURO runs later tonight are really, really going to be extremely interesting to say the least!
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#1419 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:32 pm

Steve H. wrote:I think they really do. That's why they gave much greater weight to the GFS and EC in the last advisory.


Agree with you and even more so when they are trying to figure out the future intensity of a storm.
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#1420 Postby Weatherlover12 » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:34 pm

Why are they shifting east? I thought their was a ridge?
I also thought it would go more west since it's barely hanging on?
It's hard enough getting local people to even think about Erika but I'm nervous and afraid because we don't what's happening.
Do you think it's going to flop back west?
The weekend is coming up and I want to prepare but I'm so confused and unsure. I think everyone feels this way.

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