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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#3821 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:48 am

wxman57 wrote:Anyone have a link to the 240hr Canadian? All of my links go out only to 144hrs for the 00Z run.

I see NOGAPS has given up on the earlier development (Tuesday) in the central Gulf in favor of a weaker low later in the week, as per the GFS. Euro is still even later with weak low development in the BoC (next weekend). As long as there are thunderstorms in the western Caribbean and Gulf next week, it's an area to keep an eye on. Nothing imminent, though.



http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/ewalltropatl.html
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#3822 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:53 am

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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#3823 Postby NDG » Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:54 am

wxman57 wrote:Anyone have a link to the 240hr Canadian? All of my links go out only to 144hrs for the 00Z run.

I see NOGAPS has given up on the earlier development (Tuesday) in the central Gulf in favor of a weaker low later in the week, as per the GFS. Euro is still even later with weak low development in the BoC (next weekend). As long as there are thunderstorms in the western Caribbean and Gulf next week, it's an area to keep an eye on. Nothing imminent, though.


NOGAPS has been on drungs lately, lol. Is not even worth mentioning, IMO.
It has been making the CMC look good, lol.

Edit: here's a better to the CMC, but it does not show the tropics.

http://meteocentre.com/models/models.ph ... 00&lang=en
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#3824 Postby wxman57 » Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:00 am

NDG wrote:
NOGAPS has been on drugs lately, lol. Is not even worth mentioning, IMO.
It has been making the CMC look good, lol.

Edit: here's a better link to the CMC, but it does not show the tropics.

http://meteocentre.com/models/models.ph ... 00&lang=en


Thanks for the link. Yeah, not much of the tropics is covered. I know I've seen a good Canadian model posted in this thread.

I always get concerned if my forecast track is anywhere close to NOGAPS. I try to keep my track at least 160 degrees off the NOGAPS track. ;-)
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#3825 Postby HurricaneTracker » Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:10 am

The new models are interesting.


Here is what the National Hurricane Center is saying:
AN UPPER RIDGE EXTENDS FROM THE TROPICAL ATLC ACROSS THE S
CARIBBEAN FROM THE WINDWARD ISLANDS ALONG 14N80W THROUGH THE
YUCATAN CHANNEL INTO THE SE GULF OF MEXICO PROVIDING DIFFLUENCE
ALOFT TO ENHANCE THE ACTIVITY ASSOCIATED WITH THE TROPICAL WAVE.
THE MONSOON TROUGH EXTENDS FROM COLOMBIA NEAR 11N75W THROUGH A
1010 MB SURFACE LOW CENTERED NEAR 12N82W INTO THE E PACIFIC
REGION ACROSS S NICARAGUA NEAR 12N84W AND IS GENERATING CLUSTERS
OF SCATTERED SHOWERS/ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS S OF 16N E OF 75W TO
INLAND OVER CENTRAL AMERICA. THE SAME DIFFLUENCE ALOFT OVER THE
SE CARIBBEAN IS GENERATING SCATTERED SHOWERS SE OF LINE FROM THE
VIRGIN ISLANDS TO THE ABC ISLANDS. WEAK W ATLC SURFACE RIDGE
WILL MAINTAIN MODERATE TO FRESH TRADE WINDS ACROSS MUCH OF THE
CARIBBEAN THROUGH SAT. THE TROPICAL WAVE IN THE W CARIBBEAN WILL
DISSIPATE OVER THE YUCATAN PENINSULA BY FRI. ANOTHER TROPICAL
WAVE WILL MOVE INTO THE CARIBBEAN OVER THE WEEKEND.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#3826 Postby SFLcane » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:34 am

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#3827 Postby HurricaneTracker » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:07 am

I have watched he video SFLCane

Video Summary: Caribbean favorable for development next week. The GOM favorable for development next 2 weeks.
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#3828 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:05 am

12z GFS has a closed low in the SW carrib in about 48 hours which moves N to NNW. different from previous runs which held off till almost next week.. I imagine its from the tropical wave that moves into the area.


http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/NCOMAGWEB/appc ... mageSize=M
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#3829 Postby floridasun78 » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:25 am

ok what you all thinking now ? i see their no area storms in carribbean yet
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#3830 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:26 am

floridasun78 wrote:ok what you all thinking now ? i see their no area storms in carribbean yet


still going to be at least 2 days before we have something to track in the carrib.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#3831 Postby floridasun78 » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:30 am

Aric Dunn wrote:
floridasun78 wrote:ok what you all thinking now ? i see their no area storms in carribbean yet


still going to be at least 2 days before we have something to track in the carrib.

by saturday?
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#3832 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:32 am

floridasun78 wrote:
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floridasun78 wrote:ok what you all thinking now ? i see their no area storms in carribbean yet


still going to be at least 2 days before we have something to track in the carrib.

by saturday?


well when I say track I mean possibly something trying to organize. not a tropical system by then.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#3833 Postby floridasun78 » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:35 am

yes i mean that i dont see ts in area by weekend too it too fast i saying area of stormy weather not ts
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#3834 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:40 am

12z GFS is ummm... pointless again juat keeps is stationary SE of texas for over a week not likely clearly does not have a good handle on the situation first 72 hours is reasonable after that not so much. just have to keep waiting.

http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/NCOMAGWEB/appc ... tImage=yes
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#3835 Postby Dean4Storms » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:54 am

wxman57 wrote:Anyone have a link to the 240hr Canadian? All of my links go out only to 144hrs for the 00Z run.

I see NOGAPS has given up on the earlier development (Tuesday) in the central Gulf in favor of a weaker low later in the week, as per the GFS. Euro is still even later with weak low development in the BoC (next weekend). As long as there are thunderstorms in the western Caribbean and Gulf next week, it's an area to keep an eye on. Nothing imminent, though.



Maybe this site will help........

http://www.atmos.albany.edu/student/gre ... odels.html
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#3836 Postby Dean4Storms » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:57 am

And the PSU Site is great.........

http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/ewall.html
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#3837 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:09 pm

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#3838 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:12 pm

12z CMC offers a little more this time. very weak reflection passes through the Yucatan Channel from the western carrib.

need better resolution.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/cmctc2.c ... =Animation



shows up a little better on the 850mb vorticity.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/cmctc2.c ... =Animation
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#3839 Postby Dean4Storms » Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:23 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:12z CMC offers a little more this time. very weak reflection passes through the Yucatan Channel from the western carrib.

need better resolution.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/cmctc2.c ... =Animation



shows up a little better on the 850mb vorticity.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/cmctc2.c ... =Animation



Also showing a low off the western tip of Cuba, never closes it off.
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#3840 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:36 pm

Dean4Storms wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:12z CMC offers a little more this time. very weak reflection passes through the Yucatan Channel from the western carrib.

need better resolution.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/cmctc2.c ... =Animation



shows up a little better on the 850mb vorticity.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/cmctc2.c ... =Animation



Also showing a low off the western tip of Cuba, never closes it off.


thats what i was talking about. the Yucatan Channel :)
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