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Re: ATL: 91L - NHC will iniciate advisories on TS BILL

#621 Postby tolakram » Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:59 pm

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Re: ATL: 91L - Discussion-NHC will iniciate advisories on TS BIL

#622 Postby Steve » Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:59 pm

Thanks. Wondering if he will blow up during the d-max tonight - say after 2 am. Last time I dealt with Bill, it was 2003 and one of the walls from the center of circulation came right over us in Metairie. It was the only time I can recall being in one (slept Florence '88 and missed the pass over)
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#623 Postby HurricaneRyan » Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:59 pm

So will this be weaker than Ana?
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#624 Postby weathernerdguy » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:02 pm

:uarrow: Not likely at this rate.
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#625 Postby HurriGuy » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:02 pm

looking at that unenhanced satellite, I'd swear it almost moves NNE those last couple of frames
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Re: ATL: 91L - NHC will iniciate advisories on TS BILL

#626 Postby tolakram » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:03 pm

From the NHC website:

Special Message from NHC Issued 16 Jun 2015 01:51 UTC
NHC is initiating advisories on Tropical Storm Bill and expects to release the advisory in the next 20 minutes.
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#627 Postby weathernerdguy » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:07 pm

advisories being posted. FINALLY!
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Re: ATL: BILL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#628 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:10 pm

SUMMARY OF 1000 PM CDT...0300 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...27.1N 94.2W
ABOUT 160 MI...260 KM ESE OF PORT OCONNOR TEXAS
ABOUT 155 MI...250 KM SSE OF GALVESTON TEXAS
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...50 MPH...85 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NW OR 320 DEGREES AT 12 MPH...19 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1005 MB...29.68 INCHES


WATCHES AND WARNINGS
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CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY:

A Tropical Storm Warning has been issued for the coast of Texas
from Baffin Bay to High Island.

SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT:

A Tropical Storm Warning is in effect for...
* Baffin Bay to High Island Texas

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#629 Postby HurriGuy » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:14 pm

12mph?? I'm not seeing that
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#630 Postby davidiowx » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:15 pm

That is quite a narrow track and slow movement... A bit surprising.. I will give the NHC the benefit of the doubt though. They know what they are doing.
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#631 Postby Hammy » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:17 pm

davidiowx wrote:That is quite a narrow track and slow movement... A bit surprising.. I will give the NHC the benefit of the doubt though. They know what they are doing.


I believe the track width is standard for the whole season depending on what the average margin of error was for a set number of seasons.
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#632 Postby Nederlander » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:19 pm

Hammy wrote:
davidiowx wrote:That is quite a narrow track and slow movement... A bit surprising.. I will give the NHC the benefit of the doubt though. They know what they are doing.


I believe the track width is standard for the whole season depending on what the average margin of error was for a set number of seasons.


No, I am pretty sure they take into account model consensus on a case by case basis.
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#633 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:19 pm

davidiowx wrote:That is quite a narrow track and slow movement... A bit surprising.. I will give the NHC the benefit of the doubt though. They know what they are doing.
The cone of error is based on 5 year error and does not change from storm to storm, only year to year:
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/verification/verify4.shtml
2/3rds of the time over the past 5 years storms have been outside the cone.
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#634 Postby wkwally » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:19 pm

At 12 mph I do not see much of a chance for Bill to become a hurricane

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#635 Postby psyclone » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:20 pm

davidiowx wrote:That is quite a narrow track and slow movement... A bit surprising.. I will give the NHC the benefit of the doubt though. They know what they are doing.

The width of the track is based on prior average error. it has nothing to do with the current storm. the tracks (cone) has become narrower in recent years because the NHC has been getting better over time.
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#636 Postby 1900hurricane » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:24 pm

New convection is firing in the southern quadrant. Let's see how well it sustains itself overnight. The prior burst held up pretty well but has been somewhat warm for a while now. Nighttime might help sustain deeper convection.
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#637 Postby ozonepete » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:25 pm

Hammy wrote:
davidiowx wrote:That is quite a narrow track and slow movement... A bit surprising.. I will give the NHC the benefit of the doubt though. They know what they are doing.


I believe the track width is standard for the whole season depending on what the average margin of error was for a set number of seasons.


Yup. Purely and simply. :)
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#638 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:27 pm

Better description about the cone:
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutcone.shtml
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#639 Postby davidiowx » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:29 pm

Thanks for the replies! Learn something new every day :)
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Re: ATL: BILL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#640 Postby ROCK » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:52 pm

Not moving hardly at all attm..is getting better organized http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floater ... imated.gif
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