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#961 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Oct 01, 2015 5:45 am

Alyono wrote:
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And that shift to the right is caused by Ida?


looks like partially


Talk about luck...
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#962 Postby ninel conde » Thu Oct 01, 2015 5:54 am

Joe Bastardi ‏@BigJoeBastardi 12m12 minutes ago

Joe Bastardi Retweeted Mark Sudduth

We are with euro now. Dont think this a gradual adjustment, if its a miss its by many miles. We are stronger, longer

when JB throws in the towel, its a done deal.
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#963 Postby MrStormX » Thu Oct 01, 2015 5:55 am

Kingarabian wrote:06 GFS @ 120 hrs

Looks like it's still heading NNE and it clears the east coast safely.


No offense, but based on that image, it is about to slam into Nova Scotia. When you factor in the normal margin of error that far out, it could easily landfall in Maine.
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#964 Postby ninel conde » Thu Oct 01, 2015 5:57 am

MrStormX wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:06 GFS @ 120 hrs

Looks like it's still heading NNE and it clears the east coast safely.


No offense, but based on that image, it is about to slam into Nova Scotia. When you factor in the normal margin of error that far out, it could easily landfall in Maine.


trend is east though. 12z should be quite a bit more east.
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Re: ATL: JOAQUIN - Models

#965 Postby stormlover2013 » Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:09 am

Wowww King euro !!!
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#966 Postby NDG » Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:13 am

ninel conde wrote:Joe Bastardi ‏@BigJoeBastardi 12m12 minutes ago

Joe Bastardi Retweeted Mark Sudduth

We are with euro now. Dont think this a gradual adjustment, if its a miss its by many miles. We are stronger, longer

when JB throws in the towel, its a done deal.


Glad to see him see the facts rather than going with his east coast landfall bias mood that he most times fall into.
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Re: ATL: JOAQUIN - Models

#967 Postby Siker » Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:19 am

6z HWRF shifted north but maintains landfall in NC.
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Re: ATL: JOAQUIN - Models

#968 Postby ronjon » Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:23 am

stormlover2013 wrote:Wowww King euro !!!


As we've seen in the past, when the Euro model sticks to its guns run after run its usually correct. Still can't understand why we can't construct good numerical models in the US! It's quite shocking with all our supposed technology. :P
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Re: ATL: JOAQUIN - Models

#969 Postby Weatherwatcher98 » Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:28 am

ronjon wrote:
stormlover2013 wrote:Wowww King euro !!!


As we've seen in the past, when the Euro model sticks to its guns run after run its usually correct. Still can't understand why we can't construct good numerical models in the US! It's quite shocking with all our supposed technology. :P
Amazing!!!!
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Re: ATL: JOAQUIN - Models

#970 Postby BobHarlem » Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:29 am

Wow people are really jumping the gun in here over the Euro this morning. Until the storm moves away from the Bahamas I'm not touching any of those calls.
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Re: ATL: JOAQUIN - Models

#971 Postby NDG » Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:30 am

ronjon wrote:
stormlover2013 wrote:Wowww King euro !!!


As we've seen in the past, when the Euro model sticks to its guns run after run its usually correct. Still can't understand why we can't construct good numerical models in the US! It's quite shocking with all our supposed technology. :P



As if they take turns with each storm this season, very weird, at times this year the GFS has done better with certain storms than the euro. Since the beginning the Euto has done very well with Joaquin but it did horrible when Ida formed.
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#972 Postby Alyono » Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:30 am

GFDL and HWRF still have a landfall
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#973 Postby Alyono » Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:31 am

lets not forget the FIRST model to show an east coast landfall with Joaquin was THE EURO

The hugging of this model is borderline cultish in that everyone ignores the failures
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#974 Postby NDG » Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:33 am

Alyono wrote:lets not forget the FIRST model to show an east coast landfall with Joaquin was THE EURO

The hugging of this model is borderline cultish in that everyone ignores the failures


But it was in its medium to long range range, which has not done very well, and it was only one or two runs.
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#975 Postby terstorm1012 » Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:34 am

Alyono wrote:lets not forget the FIRST model to show an east coast landfall with Joaquin was THE EURO

The hugging of this model is borderline cultish in that everyone ignores the failures


I agree. I hope most people know WHY it is saying that and has insisted on it.
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#976 Postby MrStormX » Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:36 am

No model has 'won' anything until their tracks are verified by reality, it would certainly seem that the Euro solution makes the most sense at this point...but you cannot crown winners before the race is over. Ida's remnants are going to be the key in this situation, and that is why there is so much divergence between the models.
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#977 Postby stormlover2013 » Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:37 am

King euro seems like it could be right let's hope
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#978 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:41 am

Alyono wrote:lets not forget the FIRST model to show an east coast landfall with Joaquin was THE EURO

The hugging of this model is borderline cultish in that everyone ignores the failures


Like I said yesterday...modeling this year has been flat out Brutal from the LBAR to the "King". And that's from 48 hrs to 252...only thing they've done right I've seen is kill off MDR storms on schedule.
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#979 Postby gatorcane » Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:47 am

So the Euro looks like it might regrab the title of King Euro.
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#980 Postby Alyono » Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:50 am

NDG wrote:
Alyono wrote:lets not forget the FIRST model to show an east coast landfall with Joaquin was THE EURO

The hugging of this model is borderline cultish in that everyone ignores the failures


But it was in its medium to long range range, which has not done very well, and it was only one or two runs.



it was in the 5 to 6 day time frame
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