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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1281 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:15 am

Alyono wrote:The upper low shows up very well on the simulated IR


See it now thanks was on a previous run for some reason lol. Well it would be typical of the Atlantic in recent years for a ULL to appear right next to a storm. Good news for anyone in its path.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1282 Postby gatorcane » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:17 am

GFS seems to be now be showing a somewhat stronger vort between 126 and 144 hours in the Eastern Bahamas.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1283 Postby Stormcenter » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:18 am

It really is hard to take any of these models seriously anymore. The inconsistencies are enough reason to ignore them all until we actually
have an true organized system. IMO
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1284 Postby p1nheadlarry » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:19 am

tarheelprogrammer wrote:
Alyono wrote:The upper low shows up very well on the simulated IR


See it now thanks was on a previous run for some reason lol. Well it would be typical of the Atlantic in recent years for a ULL to appear right next to a storm. Good news for anyone in its path.


Yup. Not that an ULL stopped Andrew from happening when he was just a teency TS
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1285 Postby JaxGator » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:20 am

Right now, it would be best to watch the current organizational trends and the path the models have 99L on. The ULL might be possible but I am for now disregarding the intensity it portrays for both. Plenty can change.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1286 Postby Alyono » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:20 am

UKMET stronger
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1287 Postby gatorcane » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:21 am

Pretty complex setup on the 12Z GFS 150 hours in the Bahamas with two upper-level lows off to the north of 99l, powerful soon-to-be Gaston to the east and an upper-anticyclone trying to build over 99l. Fight between upper-level lows and the upper anticyclone.

I think this is one of those cases small differences as to where these features setup (or even develop at all...like the upper low being further away to influence 99L) can make big differences on how strong 99l could become.

Tough forecast for the models.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1288 Postby Siker » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:21 am

UKMET strongest yet, further southwest:

NEW TROPICAL CYCLONE FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 96 HOURS
FORECAST POSITION AT T+ 96 : 23.3N 72.7W

LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
-------------- ---- -------- ------------- -------------
1200UTC 26.08.2016 96 23.3N 72.7W 1008 23
0000UTC 27.08.2016 108 24.5N 73.0W 1007 27
1200UTC 27.08.2016 120 25.6N 74.1W 1006 31
0000UTC 28.08.2016 132 26.4N 75.9W 1002 36
1200UTC 28.08.2016 144 26.6N 78.3W 996 43
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1289 Postby SouthFLTropics » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:24 am

GFS is set on the idea of slowing this thing way down when it gets to the Bahamas. I'm not sold on intensity at all right now when we can't get any run to run consistency. The only thing to take from all of this is there will be a disturbance in the Bahamas by this weekend. What it becomes or where it goes...only time will tell.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1290 Postby NDG » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:24 am

I guess the wild card player will be if a cut off ULL develops and rotates around of the heat ridge over the SE US ahead of 99L over the northern Bahamas which could make it difficult for 99L to develop.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1291 Postby WeatherEmperor » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:24 am

So wait. Gfs comes in weaker (after flopping back and forth)...but Ukmet comes in stronger?? omg
I officially give you all permission to bash me over the head with heavy mining equipment...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1292 Postby stormlover2013 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:25 am

just look at the ridge and see how strong it is, that is what we all need to look at..
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1293 Postby stormlover2013 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:25 am

can we see a image on the ukmet
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1294 Postby Siker » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:26 am

CMC with a Florida hit:

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1295 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:26 am

stormlover2013 wrote:can we see a image on the ukmet



Go here:
http://ruc.noaa.gov/hfip/tcgen/
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1296 Postby AutoPenalti » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:27 am

This is fun.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1297 Postby SouthFLTropics » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:27 am

Alyono wrote:UKMET stronger


How was the UKMET's performance with Earl?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1298 Postby Alyono » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:28 am

Canadian has shifted massively west, though it too is slightly weaker
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1299 Postby SouthFLTropics » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:28 am

Siker wrote:CMC with a Florida hit:

Image


I feel safer already!!! :D
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1300 Postby stormlover2013 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:29 am

ukmet takes quick turn left lol
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