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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1541 Postby Dean4Storms » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:29 pm

Up to this point it has been the GFS all over the place, remember it had 99L a strong TS in the NE Carib. at one time. I'm not trusting the GFS on this right now.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1542 Postby Alyono » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:32 pm

shortwave wrote:
Alyono wrote:sp, we have anywhere from a cat 4 in the Gulf to no disturbance worth monitoring


What is your 7 day prediction for this disturbance?


The exact forecast is only available only to paying clients. Sorry :(

However, this is one that needs to be watched
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1543 Postby stormlover2013 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:33 pm

198 hours out ridge stronger
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1544 Postby NDG » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:33 pm

gatorcane wrote:This time the GFS hits it with shear from a ULL that pinches off from the northeast. In the 12Z it was a ULL from the northwest.


Yeap, unlike the 12 Euro the GFS never builds an UL ridge close to 99L over the Bahamas, nothing but dry northerly shear over it.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1545 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:36 pm

My mistake I was referring to the NOGAPS.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1546 Postby Hammy » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:37 pm

GFS not entirely done with it on this run, there's still something there at 210 hours.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1547 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:43 pm

Hammy wrote:GFS not entirely done with it on this run, there's still something there at 210 hours.

99L's vorticity seems to be slightly better defined than the 12z run at this time frame.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1548 Postby stormlover2013 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:46 pm

Ridge is strong about 210 hours out...interesting
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1549 Postby p1nheadlarry » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:47 pm

Nimbus wrote:Elena would be better than Hugo, the track took it over the islands which kept the intensity in check.


Unfair comparison. Hugo was a monster before it ever reached the islands.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1550 Postby Mouton » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:49 pm

According to last of current run of GFS at 252 hours, weak low in SE Florida. With the ridge moving away, could go right up the peninsula?? Slightly off either side could be quite important. This is over 10 days out for a storm that is not even a TD as yet so all bets are off for about five days according to Cowan. His most recent update is superb BTW.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1551 Postby Dean4Storms » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:50 pm

I can't see this sitting down there for a week in the Bahamas. Somebody needs to put the GFS on life support!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1552 Postby xcool22 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:51 pm

Dean4Storms wrote:I can't see this sitting down there for a week in the Bahamas. Somebody needs to put the GFS on life support!



lmao :D
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1553 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:54 pm

I'm not sure if this is entirely true, but I heard that the GFS data at 00z is "refreshed". So that 00z run will be key to see if it falls back in line with the Euro. If it doesn't, then the 00z Euro run will be key to see if it backs off development. I feel like we're going to have a long week with the models being on and off.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1554 Postby p1nheadlarry » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:58 pm

Kingarabian wrote:I'm not sure if this is entirely true, but I heard that the GFS data at 00z is "refreshed". So that 00z run will be key to see if it falls back in line with the Euro. If it doesn't, then the 00z Euro run will be key to see if it backs off development. I feel like we're going to have a long week with the models being on and off.


I'm not entirely sure what that means, but if anything I'm betting the models will be a lot better off after HH fly in tomorrow, barring cancellation.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1555 Postby hohnywx » Mon Aug 22, 2016 6:03 pm

Kingarabian wrote:I'm not sure if this is entirely true, but I heard that the GFS data at 00z is "refreshed". So that 00z run will be key to see if it falls back in line with the Euro. If it doesn't, then the 00z Euro run will be key to see if it backs off development. I feel like we're going to have a long week with the models being on and off.


Every model run has new data...the old rumor of the 6z and 18z not having new data is not true.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1556 Postby WeatherEmperor » Mon Aug 22, 2016 6:09 pm

Does anybody have the 18z Navgem?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1557 Postby SunnyThoughts » Mon Aug 22, 2016 6:10 pm

Certainly not what I wanted to see getting home from work today, from the Euro. Guess as always, it is a wait and see situation. Seems the ridge ( and how strong it is) is the determining factor as usual this time of year.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1558 Postby RL3AO » Mon Aug 22, 2016 6:14 pm

Kingarabian wrote:I'm not sure if this is entirely true, but I heard that the GFS data at 00z is "refreshed". So that 00z run will be key to see if it falls back in line with the Euro. If it doesn't, then the 00z Euro run will be key to see if it backs off development. I feel like we're going to have a long week with the models being on and off.


This thinking about the 6/18z runs was obsolete 20 years ago. >99% (I think) of model data comes from satellites.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1559 Postby Frank2 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 6:17 pm

Maybe, but 99 has hit some sort of wall the past few hours, so the GFS might be right...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1560 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Aug 22, 2016 6:21 pm

RL3AO wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:I'm not sure if this is entirely true, but I heard that the GFS data at 00z is "refreshed". So that 00z run will be key to see if it falls back in line with the Euro. If it doesn't, then the 00z Euro run will be key to see if it backs off development. I feel like we're going to have a long week with the models being on and off.


This thinking about the 6/18z runs was obsolete 20 years ago. >99% (I think) of model data comes from satellites.

Ohh okay. Thank you.
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