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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1601 Postby Dean4Storms » Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:35 pm

It is late August and you have a big Tropical Wave moving into bath water just east of the Bahamas with a Ridge sitting over the Carolina's, I'd give more credence to the HWRF run there than the GFS run that sits a low level large TW over the Bahamas for a week and does nothing with it! Just sayin!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1602 Postby ronjon » Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:37 pm

I'm thinking 00z GFS will show development now that 18z GFDL is latching on to it in Bahamas.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1603 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:40 pm

ronjon wrote:I'm thinking 00z GFS will show development now that 18z GFDL is latching on to it in Bahamas.


Same here.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1604 Postby blp » Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:42 pm

This might have been posted but the UKmet really ramps this up. Scary.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1605 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:46 pm

Strengthening storm turning west under a strengthening ridge..not good
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1606 Postby StrongWind » Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:51 pm

Ivanhater wrote:Strengthening storm turning west under a strengthening ridge..not good


Will a stronger ridge help amplify this storm?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1607 Postby Javlin » Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:55 pm

It seems as many have been noting does a weakness develop in 190-230hr range to pull it back NE JMA ,NavGem and UKMET say no but the GFS,Euro and CMC show it as a possibility.We have had two little circulations come over the NGOM in the last 3-4 weeks which indicates the strength of the ridging and if your wondering two?It was about a week to ten days before the floods in Baton Rouge a swirl went through the FL straits moved over the LA/MS line.It felt and looked tropical as it moved on up to Baton Rouge and presented itself as such from the NO radar.It dumped some good rain along the MSGC while not quite as much as #2 system.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1608 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:59 pm

00z Model Guidance.

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18z GEFS Ensembles.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1609 Postby Nimbus » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:02 pm

Hate the strengthening ridge trend but you never know maybe 99l will stay weak enough to track over the islands where land interaction prevents development. Unless the ridging moves east we won't get a 2006 Ernesto track up the spine of Florida.
We have to be careful what we wish-cast the SST's in the gulf and Atlantic near the Bahamas are nitro fuel for tropical activity in a low shear environment.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1610 Postby stormlover2013 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:03 pm

Javlin but gfs and euro ridge is getting strong it seems like on each run not good!!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1611 Postby SunnyThoughts » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:25 pm

StrongWind wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:Strengthening storm turning west under a strengthening ridge..not good


Will a stronger ridge help amplify this storm?



Not so much amplifying the storm, but if the ridge is strong...it can't turn northward, it will continue westward..until it feels some sort of weakness to turn it more North.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1612 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:27 pm

SunnyThoughts wrote:
StrongWind wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:Strengthening storm turning west under a strengthening ridge..not good


Will a stronger ridge help amplify this storm?



Not so much amplifying the storm, but if the ridge is strong...it can't turn northward, it will continue westward..until it feels some sort of weakness to turn it more North.


At that rate, this might end up in Texas or in the Mexican Gulf Coast. Could we be seeing an Ike-like situation (albeit with a weaker initial storm)?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1614 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:38 pm

northjaxpro wrote:I normally agree that the HWRF overdoes intensity in most instances. BUT, the model did show Danny's rapid intensification into a major hurricane from last season. So, you certainly can't.completely discount it.



But wasnt Danny already a named system when it showed that? IMO the hwrf, much like the cmc, always seem to show every system as the next super cane especially when they are in its infant stages. Better to look at it for the steering pattern.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1615 Postby Blow_Hard » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:41 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:
SunnyThoughts wrote:
StrongWind wrote:
Will a stronger ridge help amplify this storm?



Not so much amplifying the storm, but if the ridge is strong...it can't turn northward, it will continue westward..until it feels some sort of weakness to turn it more North.


At that rate, this might end up in Texas or in the Mexican Gulf Coast. Could we be seeing an Ike-like situation (albeit with a weaker initial storm)?


Exactly what I was thinking. If the models continue to show a strengthening ridge I wouldn't be surprised to see the tracks follow suit and continue to shift west. IMO, if you live anywhere on the Gulf Coast you'll want to pay close attention to 99L.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1616 Postby Nederlander » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:41 pm

It seems that the models are beginning to trend toward a strengthening ridge. The GFS has been out to lunch due to a ULL that the Euro and others have not been seeing, but is seemingly caving. Just a climo synopsis will show that this setup is ripe for a system moving across SE FL and into the gulf with warm waters abundant. And remember that land interaction with S FL is no guarantee of weakening. At this point, it would be prudent for residents of SE FL and the gulf coast from LA to FL to keep an eye out. Still a long ways to go, so no panic, but preparation indeed.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1617 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:44 pm

I'm starting to wonder if the ridge will be strong enough to push this through the Florida Straits missing mainland south Florida.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1618 Postby jeff » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:44 pm

Models trending left and continue to show more ridging over the SE US. Focus on the overall synoptic scale setup...a lot of ridge over the SE US this weekend all the way west to the Gulf coast. Overall run to run agreement between models and runs is in the dumps...but the ensembles have been showing an increasing leftward trend. Big question is will 99L find a good environment in the Bahamas for development...some negative factors to overcome with the biggest being dry air.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1619 Postby cajungal » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:47 pm

Just pray this stays away from Louisiana. Baton Rouge and Lafayette areas are a disaster. Last thing this state needs is a storm.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#1620 Postby Blown Away » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:50 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:I'm starting to wonder if the ridge will be strong enough to push this through the Florida Straits missing mainland south Florida.


Just as likely as any other scenario IMO...
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