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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#2501 Postby Bailey1777 » Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:23 pm

It can make your head spin on here for sure but this is by far the best sight for the tropics..it stays active and that's what I'm looking for. Thanks for all you do Storm2K...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#2502 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:27 pm

MississippiWx wrote:Just to get you guys talking more, but I have just found another eddy or vorticitu maximum back in the convection around 23N 70W. Notice the fairly strong SSW wind observation just to the east of this lower level spin. Interesting at the very least.

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis/online/loop.asp?data_folder=tropical/tropical_ge_4km_visir2_floater_2&width=640&height=480&number_of_images_to_display=12


There is low shear in that area, thats where I would look if the vortmax near Cuba goes inland

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#2503 Postby CourierPR » Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:27 pm

MississippiWx wrote:Just to get you guys talking more, but I have just found another eddy or vorticitu maximum back in the convection around 23N 70W. Notice the fairly strong SSW wind observation just to the east of this lower level spin. Interesting at the very least.


I saw that a few minutes ago. Never say never when you have a system near The Bahamas in late August. I just watched NBC6 in Miami and the anchors were almost to the point of high fiving each other that this system is done.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#2504 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:29 pm

Is it possible this could become 2 separate systems, one from the Vortmax near Cuba and the one at 70W 23N

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#2505 Postby HurriGuy » Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:31 pm

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floaters/99L/imagery/rgb_lalo-animated.gif

Watch how the midlevel circulation starts transferring north. Start your eyes at about 18.5N, 70W and follow the loop to about 20N, 70W. Old midlevel circulation dying out south of Hispaniola. Could be wrong, but that is what it appears to me.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#2506 Postby HurriGuy » Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:32 pm

Image

I think this justifies what I am seeing
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#2507 Postby tolakram » Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:46 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#2508 Postby STRiZZY » Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:50 pm

99L Sure has traveled some distance.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#2509 Postby HurriGuy » Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:55 pm

GFS has some pretty favorable conditions in 18 hours. Proximity to Cuba probably biggest negative factor.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#2510 Postby HurriGuy » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:06 pm

And of course GFS has started a trend to my solution on the previous page with the energy making it to the Upper High in the Gulf. More defined this run and a mere 100 miles to the west better positioned towards the center of the upper high is going to make a worlds difference in the outcome.

Let's keep watching
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#2511 Postby NJWxHurricane » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:07 pm

35 dropsdones were incorporated into thid GFS run.(data from planes)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#2512 Postby Blinhart » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:07 pm

Could this system actually get it self better organized because of the funnel effect it will be getting from going between Cuba and the point of Florida? I see the models are now saying that this won't really get its act together until it gets into the GoM, is this because they have more information from all the recon flights?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#2513 Postby floridasun78 » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:11 pm

HurriGuy wrote:Image

I think this justifies what I am seeing

good eye i looking at sat pic i do see spin that area let see nhc see it send plane to check it out
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#2514 Postby Bocadude85 » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:15 pm

floridasun78 wrote:
HurriGuy wrote: I think this justifies what I am seeing


good eye i looking at sat pic i do see spin that area let see nhc see it send plane to check it out


If that is in fact where a new llc forms then the models have initialized to far west
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#2515 Postby HurriGuy » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:20 pm

Bocadude85 wrote:
floridasun78 wrote:
HurriGuy wrote: I think this justifies what I am seeing


good eye i looking at sat pic i do see spin that area let see nhc see it send plane to check it out


If that is in fact where a new llc forms then the models have initialized to far west


Guys this is 500mb vorticity. I was only making an observation that the mid-level vorticity is trying to catch up to the upper half of the wave axis. Models had been showing this lag and catch-up game.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#2516 Postby JILL239 » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:30 pm

:double: Still a newbie been lurking just moved from Fort Lauderdale to Naples and gotta say I am a little dizzy with this disturbance I know it has been awhile and I am prepared incase but I have never seen this uncertainty before that I can remember

Should Naples be concerned :?: thanks and I am enjoying all the banter and the pro-mets too
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#2517 Postby HurriGuy » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:31 pm

I am going to keep hammering this home until everyone sees it.

The upper high forecasted to be over the Gulf is going to be the biggest factor.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#2518 Postby JabNOLA » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:44 pm

OK... Just an outside in observation.
Since the "common sense" model is not registered I post my thoughts here.

Looking at water vapor, vorticisity, flow and mimic I believe development possibilities of 99L are finished as depicted in the mainstream models. Almost like a wave crashing on a beach.

It is possible that development can occur when vorticisity, moisture and that allusive upper high all meet in the fuel tank, NW Caribbean. Maybe that will still be labled 99L and maybe we'll have something to talk about.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#2519 Postby galaxy401 » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:47 pm

Hispaniola can destroy tropical systems even if the storm's circulation avoids the island. Had a feeling that would happen.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#2520 Postby Sanibel » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:49 pm

From the looks of it there is cross-shear at 2 levels. Usually spells doom to system.
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