ATL: Ex INVEST 92L - Discussion

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#361 Postby Bailey1777 » Sun Sep 04, 2016 7:18 pm

Is it actually centered around where that yellow dot appears in the middle? Not gonna make this guy say eye...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#362 Postby Bailey1777 » Sun Sep 04, 2016 7:20 pm

Guess I should learn the definition of broad...well looks good anyway.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#363 Postby hurricaneCW » Sun Sep 04, 2016 7:25 pm

Am I missing something? This is looking really good, I'm shocked the chances are so low. I really want to see if it can keep things up for the next 12-24 hrs.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#364 Postby gatorcane » Sun Sep 04, 2016 7:32 pm

NHC I am sure is hesitant since then normally two reliable GFS and ECMWF models don't do anything with this during the next 5 days (and in the GFS case ever). That said, it is interesting the GFS is now showing a piece of 850MB energy/vorticity that moves more WNW through the Northern Caribbean, Cuba, and then Eastern Gulf while showing another 850MB vorticity that weakens heading westwards through the Caribbean sea towards the Yucatan. It wasn't showing the former 850MB vort earlier so maybe what the NHC is tracking is the one heading to the Yucatan. Do I dare say the GFS trended a little closer to the NAVGEM this cycle which has been showing 92L moving WNW through Hispaniola, Eastern Cuba or just north of, and then Southern Florida?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#365 Postby floridasun78 » Sun Sep 04, 2016 7:34 pm

any one link carribbeans islands radar?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#366 Postby GeneratorPower » Sun Sep 04, 2016 7:38 pm

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floater ... short.html

Looks like the convective ball has stopped. It's basically stationary.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#367 Postby Gustywind » Sun Sep 04, 2016 7:39 pm

SSD first appearence for 92L :eek:

DATE/TIME LAT LON CLASSIFICATION STORM
04/2345 UTC 15.5N 60.2W T1.0/1.0 92L
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#368 Postby Medtronic15 » Sun Sep 04, 2016 7:47 pm

Gustywind wrote:SSD first appearence for 92L :eek:

DATE/TIME LAT LON CLASSIFICATION STORM
04/2345 UTC 15.5N 60.2W T1.0/1.0 92L


Very, very interesting!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#369 Postby jlauderdal » Sun Sep 04, 2016 7:51 pm

GeneratorPower wrote:http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floaters/92L/html5-avn-short.html

Looks like the convective ball has stopped. It's basically stationary.
dont be fooled by IR..thisthing is definitely moving
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#370 Postby GeneratorPower » Sun Sep 04, 2016 7:52 pm

jlauderdal wrote:
GeneratorPower wrote:http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floaters/92L/html5-avn-short.html

Looks like the convective ball has stopped. It's basically stationary.
dont be fooled by IR..thisthing is definitely moving


IR is still location-accurate. At least the tops of those storms are stationary. It doesn't give much of an idea of the low levels but the tops aren't moving.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#371 Postby jason1912 » Sun Sep 04, 2016 7:54 pm

floridasun78 wrote:any one link carribbeans islands radar?

http://www.meteofrance.gp/previsions-me ... r/antilles
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#372 Postby floridasun78 » Sun Sep 04, 2016 7:57 pm

here weather report from leedwards hightest wind is 35mph Le Raizet, Guadeloupe (78897) Weather Station Wind 20mph, 35mph gusts
Air Temp 77°f Sea Pressure 1013mb

Le Raizet, Guadeloupe http://magicseaweed.com/Le-Raizet-Guadeloupe-Weather-Station/68629/
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#373 Postby beoumont » Sun Sep 04, 2016 8:15 pm

floridasun78 wrote:any one link carribbeans islands radar?


http://www.barbadosweather.org/Composite/kidbuuComposite_displayer.php?Product=Reflectivity&Sector=EC_Bar&Composite=Sabre&PlanetOfTheApes=1473036511

Looking closer at the charts yesterday a 40 knot straight easterly wind at 700 mb through the Carib. might be a reason the NHC is pessimistic on development; I would guess these winds are the front end of an easterly surge that periodically occurs during the season.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#374 Postby chaser1 » Sun Sep 04, 2016 8:38 pm

Looking fairly good tonight, and right on schedule. Key though, will be to see if a true CDO can develop/maintain itself through the night and into tomm. If so this small core system might just surprise a few people and take on some shape as it approaches 65W
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#375 Postby blp » Sun Sep 04, 2016 9:44 pm

This pass showing up to TS winds over the mid level circ. Let's see if it works it's way down. It need's this convection to continue firing through the night. Let's see what happens low level bort appears to be off to the SW of the mid level.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#376 Postby blp » Sun Sep 04, 2016 9:55 pm

Funny this looks like a July setup in the Carribean with that TUTT like upper level trough out in front. It serving to help ventilate the area but it so precariously close to getting shredded. Let's see if it can continue to keep its distance because right now it is in a good spot
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#377 Postby Gustywind » Sun Sep 04, 2016 10:13 pm

floridasun78 wrote:any one link carribbeans islands radar?

http://www.barbadosweather.org/Composit ... 1470321483
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#378 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Sep 04, 2016 10:50 pm

there is definitely a sharp wave axis and convection along it. convection must maintain to counter the low level surge. we all know what happens in the eastern carrib the low level flow increases and unless the overall wave is large or the circ is already established it will not develop. NHC is not going to give it good chances in a statistically unlikely area .
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#379 Postby Fego » Mon Sep 05, 2016 12:06 am

Aric Dunn wrote:there is definitely a sharp wave axis and convection along it. convection must maintain to counter the low level surge. we all know what happens in the eastern carrib the low level flow increases and unless the overall wave is large or the circ is already established it will not develop. NHC is not going to give it good chances in a statistically unlikely area .


Hi Aric. So, Should we expect the big blob to disappear any time soon unless a LLC is established?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#380 Postby hurricanehunter69 » Mon Sep 05, 2016 1:07 am

Looking at water vapor tonight...I'm noticing that the Tutt Low and associated dry air and shear is moving in tandem with 92L. The adverse conditions were much closer to 92L's circulation just 24 hours ago. Upper level conditions out ahead of the invest have improved today? Surprised the percentages didn't increase...however slightly? http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/tatl/flash-wv.html
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