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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#3641 Postby tolakram » Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:01 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#3642 Postby NDG » Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:02 am

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NDG wrote:It appears to me that the circulation just east of Key West is just yet another eddy rotating WSW around the larger circulation, mid level circulation is much closer now.


Agreed NDG. Thinking low pressure will have to eventually form underneath that mid level center. But it needs more convection to do that.


Definitely just an eddy rotating around near Key West, bigger circulation to the east of it, IMO.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#3643 Postby tolakram » Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:06 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#3644 Postby HurriGuy » Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:24 am

Development chances today should still be around 0-20%. Just for today

More interested in tomorrow because the ULL bringing in the dry air and sheer will be in the process of slowing down it's movement west
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#3645 Postby NDG » Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:24 am

One thing different this morning is that the surface circulation is more defined and talking up a larger area.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#3646 Postby HurriGuy » Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:28 am

It is also hard for me to believe the exposed circulation we see on visible will be the main feature. It has looked the same every morning with an exposed circulation dying off as the morning progresses.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#3647 Postby xcool22 » Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:29 am

have feelings soon as get in gom kaboom imo.


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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#3648 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:33 am

Shear, like it has been doing recently, will keep this storm in check. Without it this system is already a named storm. Every time any system threatens land it is shear that appears. Without it someone living on the Gulf of Mexico would no doubt have a bad storm with how much of a fight this system is putting up. It may make for boring weather but the boring part has saved lives. I see the center is exposed once again and racing west into the keys. Still very disorganized.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#3649 Postby NDG » Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:33 am

12z Best Track has it on the circulation just east of Key West, which with respect I disagree with them otherwise pressures would been much lower along the Key.
If this is just an eddy, I am sure it threw off intensity models off.


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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#3650 Postby HurriGuy » Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:38 am

https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-81.36,22.06,3000/loc=-80.002,23.300

Zoom in on 99L. That is where the broad circulation is. Not buying into best track location
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#3651 Postby HurriGuy » Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:42 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#3652 Postby TimeZone » Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:00 am

Shear once again putting a beating on little 99L. It's going to run out of time eventually.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#3653 Postby jlauderdal » Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:02 am

GCANE wrote:Obviously getting a feed of dry air in from the north.
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floater ... -long.html
Looks like skys are clear over much of S FL.
Expecting to see pop up convection this afternoon over FL feed into 99L and moisten the mid levels.
Could help develop it Sunday night.

its cleared out over sofla...breezy and partly cloudy, no sign of heavy rains :roll:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#3654 Postby gulf701 » Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:09 am

From the wind field data at earth.nullschool.net, the circulation is about half way between tip of Florida and Cuba. The northern side is a lot stronger than the southern side. The interaction with Cuba is disrupting the flow enough to prevent circulation to increase. A little further West might see a change in development.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#3655 Postby tropicwatch » Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:10 am

I believe the main circulation to be in the vicinity of the circled area.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#3656 Postby GCANE » Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:22 am

jlauderdal wrote:
GCANE wrote:Obviously getting a feed of dry air in from the north.
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floater ... -long.html
Looks like skys are clear over much of S FL.
Expecting to see pop up convection this afternoon over FL feed into 99L and moisten the mid levels.
Could help develop it Sunday night.

its cleared out over sofla...breezy and partly cloudy, no sign of heavy rains :roll:

CAPE over the glades went from 1500 to 2500 the last 15 min.
Sun could continue to destabilize the air.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#3657 Postby rolltide » Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:34 am

panamatropicwatch wrote:I believe the main circulation to be in the vicinity of the circled area.

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I agree Panama
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#3658 Postby RL3AO » Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:36 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#3659 Postby HurriGuy » Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:41 am

It is strictly a southernly inflow now.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#3660 Postby jlauderdal » Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:44 am

GCANE wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:
GCANE wrote:Obviously getting a feed of dry air in from the north.
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floater ... -long.html
Looks like skys are clear over much of S FL.
Expecting to see pop up convection this afternoon over FL feed into 99L and moisten the mid levels.
Could help develop it Sunday night.

its cleared out over sofla...breezy and partly cloudy, no sign of heavy rains :roll:

CAPE over the glades went from 1500 to 2500 the last 15 min.
Sun could continue to destabilize the air.
the clear out ended...raining ne fllnand lowering cloud deck to the east
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