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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5341 Postby NDG » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:09 am

Looking at vis loop half of the LLC circulation is now exposed.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5342 Postby Slughitter3 » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:10 am

hohnywx wrote:
Slughitter3 wrote:The Weather Channel just passed that the Global Hawk (UAS) flying the system has been recording TS winds for the last hour or so. Anyone know where to find that data to confirm it or not? Thanks!


Stu Ostro sent out this tweet

 https://twitter.com/StuOstro/status/770646742895357952





I sadly can't see tweets on my work computer, any chance you could tell me what it says?? Thank you!!
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5343 Postby TropicalSailor » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:11 am

Complete amateur here but does anyone see a NE shift between 15:55 and 16:00 here?

http://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... olor=black
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5344 Postby stormreader » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:12 am

One factor: The disorganized nature of this system. Really wondering (as I said last night) if that might play a role in making it more difficult for the storm to be picked up by the approaching trough. In other words making this mess of a depression less susceptible to upper atmospheric influences (like the trough).
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5345 Postby Stormcenter » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:13 am

Which circulation are you looking at?



NDG wrote:Looking at vis loop half of the LLC circulation is now exposed.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5346 Postby Stormcenter » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:14 am

I see a disorganized mess right now. The shear is again taking it's toll on TD#9.


TropicalSailor wrote:Complete amateur here but does anyone see a NE shift between 15:55 and 16:00 here?

http://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... olor=black
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5347 Postby Dave C » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:17 am

Outflow boundries shooting out north and ne of system.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5348 Postby ronjon » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:17 am

Slughitter3 wrote:
hohnywx wrote:
Slughitter3 wrote:The Weather Channel just passed that the Global Hawk (UAS) flying the system has been recording TS winds for the last hour or so. Anyone know where to find that data to confirm it or not? Thanks!


Stu Ostro sent out this tweet

 https://twitter.com/StuOstro/status/770646742895357952





I sadly can't see tweets on my work computer, any chance you could tell me what it says?? Thank you!!


Dropsone data reports average surface winds of 45 mph and central pressure of 1005 mb.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5349 Postby GCANE » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:19 am

First time I have seen a CAPE of 4000 near this.
Its just west of the convection at about 23.2N 88.5W.
I am not sure what is going on with the convection along 84W.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5350 Postby Sanibel » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:20 am

Expanded surface feature. Center under convection. Slightly improved Dvorak.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5351 Postby GCANE » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:21 am

Dave C wrote:Outflow boundries shooting out north and ne of system.


I thought that may happen.
Too much convection too quickly with not enough vorticity to keep feeding in ocean heat.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5352 Postby psyclone » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:21 am

Let's just assume the system never gets put together and never even becomes a named storm (bet with persistence)...it remains a very heavy rain and flood threat. It has consistently had heavy rain on its east and south so if it moves near you or you're off to its east and south...there is probably some risk of flooding for your area. I know my area is already pretty wet so heavy rain will just automatically translate into runoff. Sandbags are still available in the bay area and for good reason. Heavy rain never gets the attention of wind or surge but the threat is very significant...as we just saw in Louisiana.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5353 Postby Slughitter3 » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:22 am

ronjon wrote:
Slughitter3 wrote:
hohnywx wrote:
Stu Ostro sent out this tweet

 https://twitter.com/StuOstro/status/770646742895357952





I sadly can't see tweets on my work computer, any chance you could tell me what it says?? Thank you!!


Dropsone data reports average surface winds of 45 mph and central pressure of 1005 mb.


Thank you, forgive me for being new, but do they utilize the dropsone data to upgrade or will they require the Recon flight before considering an upgrade?
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5354 Postby whatacane » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:27 am

GCANE wrote:First time I have seen a CAPE of 4000 near this.
Its just west of the convection at about 23.2N 88.5W.
I am not sure what is going on with the convection along 84W.

what is that?
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5355 Postby GCANE » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:29 am

Didn't expect to see this yet, but looks like an outflow channel is developing.

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/a ... g8wvir.GIF
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5356 Postby bqknight » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:30 am

GCANE wrote:Didn't expect to see this yet, but looks like an outflow channel is developing.

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/a ... g8wvir.GIF


Was just about to post that, definitely looks like one forming in the SW.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5357 Postby JtSmarts » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:31 am

Um, is is just me of the did the GFS almost turn TD 9 back into the NE coast at hours 120-138?
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5358 Postby GCANE » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:33 am

Pretty big drop in shear in the last 6 hours

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/a ... wg8sht.GIF
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5359 Postby tropicwatch » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:35 am

Don't think the dry air in the BOC will be much of a factor. Looks to be moistening up. Also not seeing what will push TD 9 eastward.

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/atlantic/movies/g8wvbbm/g8wvbbm_loop.html
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5360 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:36 am

panamatropicwatch wrote:Don't think the dry air in the BOC will be much of a factor. Looks to be moistening up. Also not seeing what will push TD 9 eastward.

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/atlantic/movies/g8wvbbm/g8wvbbm_loop.html


Yeah where is the system to take this OTS?
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