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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#6441 Postby OntarioEggplant » Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:44 am

Several unflagged >30 KT SFMR readings too
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#6442 Postby NDG » Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:45 am

Getting closed of being stacked.

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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#6443 Postby crimi481 » Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:45 am

If it stalls, or drifts sw, I would think the incoming trough would send it more south and east- back towards Tampa area. Anyone agree?
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#6444 Postby chaser1 » Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:45 am

Nimbus wrote:
JaxGator wrote:WJXT was live at Cedar Key and storm surge has already almost covered one the beaches there and is about to cover the roadway right by it. Also, power poles at that beach are being surrounded by water.


Storm surge depends on a lot of different factors but the square miles surface area of the water exposed to wind is the primary "power factor".

Last estimates I heard were high tides 5 ft above normal in some areas.


I just checked on Ceder Key High Tides (Tampa area were real close to these times, perhaps 30-60 min. later):
Thursday Sept. 1: High Tides at 2:40am and 2:28pm
Friday Sept 2: High Tides at 3:07am and 3:06pm

Something to also take into account, there are times during the year where tides tend to be higher and lower. This site that I referenced (http://www.tides4fishing.com/us/florida ... orough-bay) indicated the coefficient to right now be very high; in short meaning that high tides are running distinctly higher than normal. I'm sure that'll all be taken into consideration within the scope of NOAA's new flood/storm surge maps.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#6445 Postby TreasureIslandFLGal » Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:46 am

JKingTampa wrote:My street has officially became a river here in St Petersburg. Anyone know how much rain these storm drains will be able to hold?



are you in Shore Acres? a workmate of mine is worried about status there. frequently floods anyway.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#6446 Postby txwatcher91 » Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:46 am

Really starting to wrap up nicely now on visible satellite. Imo recon will find a TS with 50mph winds and 995 pressure.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#6447 Postby RL3AO » Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:47 am

chaser1 wrote:
Nimbus wrote:
JaxGator wrote:WJXT was live at Cedar Key and storm surge has already almost covered one the beaches there and is about to cover the roadway right by it. Also, power poles at that beach are being surrounded by water.


Storm surge depends on a lot of different factors but the square miles surface area of the water exposed to wind is the primary "power factor".

Last estimates I heard were high tides 5 ft above normal in some areas.


I just checked on Ceder Key High Tides (Tampa area were real close to these times, perhaps 30-60 min. later):
Thursday Sept. 1: High Tides at 2:40am and 2:28pm
Friday Sept 2: High Tides at 3:07am and 3:06pm

Something to also take into account, there are times during the year where tides tend to be higher and lower. This site that I referenced (http://www.tides4fishing.com/us/florida ... orough-bay) indicated the coefficient to right now be very high; in short meaning that high tides are running distinctly higher than normal. I'm sure that'll all be taken into consideration within the scope of NOAA's new flood/storm surge maps.


The model used (P-Surge) accounts for tides within the model itself. No need for humans to adjust for tides.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#6448 Postby Sanibel » Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:47 am

Slow development. Ready to spin up in my opinion.


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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#6449 Postby JKingTampa » Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:47 am

TreasureIslandFLGal wrote:
JKingTampa wrote:My street has officially became a river here in St Petersburg. Anyone know how much rain these storm drains will be able to hold?



are you in Shore Acres? a workmate of mine is worried about status there. frequently floods anyway.


I'm over near Kenneth City/Tyrone area. With each band of heavier rain we get the water is getting closer and closer in my driveway. There looks to be quite more rain coming too..
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#6450 Postby Stormcenter » Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:48 am

Haven't we heard this before, sorry couldn't resist. :D


txwatcher91 wrote:Really starting to wrap up nicely now on visible satellite. Imo recon will find a TS with 50mph winds and 995 pressure.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#6451 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:48 am

psyclone wrote:we don't need a well organized system to make minimum tropical storm status. I expect us to finally get over the hump

Exactly, I'd be shocked if this was not upgraded @2pm.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#6452 Postby MississippiWx » Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:48 am

The SW to NE orientation of the storm is enough of a clue to feel pretty good about a northeast movement being imminent.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#6453 Postby drezee » Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:48 am

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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#6454 Postby caneman » Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:49 am

Lots of flooding already in,pinellas county. Water is up and over the sidewalk at Clearwater beach
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#6455 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:49 am

did it go southeast?
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#6456 Postby AutoPenalti » Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:50 am

TS @ 50kts @ 999mb
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#6457 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:51 am

MississippiWx wrote:The SW to NE orientation of the storm is enough of a clue to feel pretty good about a northeast movement being imminent.


yep look at the direction of the clouds to get a feel for movement..its going to be on the move shortly if not already..its been a real fighter like a kid that doesnt want to school but eventually stronger forces prevail
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#6458 Postby chaser1 » Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:52 am

I'm gonna stick with my thought of 998mb., though i'm inclined to think we'll have 45mph sustained. Really looks to me to be located at 23.9N and 87.9W
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#6459 Postby TropicalSailor » Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:53 am

jlauderdal wrote:
MississippiWx wrote:The SW to NE orientation of the storm is enough of a clue to feel pretty good about a northeast movement being imminent.


yep look at the direction of the clouds to get a feel for movement..its going to be on the move shortly if not already..its been a real fighter like a kid that doesnt want to school but eventually stronger forces prevail


That kid ends up being a bully and beating the crap out of everyone.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#6460 Postby chaser1 » Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:54 am

Recon's getting close but still at 10,450' flight level and dropping slowly
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