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Re: ATL: MARIA - Models

#1141 Postby chaser1 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:45 pm

chris46n wrote:Base on the models runs hitting Florida is very very small. So lets move on with that....


I see few models suggesting a D.R. landfall either. Would it please you to discount that as well?
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Models

#1142 Postby ChucktownStormer » Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:52 pm

chris46n wrote:Base on the models runs hitting Florida is very very small. So lets move on with that....

These are computers. They are only as good as the data in them. The data changes often and so do the models.

Why do we never learn our lesson?
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Models

#1143 Postby floridasun78 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:55 pm

Hogweed wrote:Euro over Puerto Rico.

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Peak 3 hour gust is at the eastern end of the island at 178 mph slightly earlier.

https://weather.us/model-charts/euro/pu ... 1200z.html

poor Puerto Rico
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Models

#1144 Postby AutoPenalti » Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:14 pm

chris46n wrote:Base on the models runs hitting Florida is very very small. So lets move on with that....

Okay, you seem to know the future so I'll see to you on that.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Models

#1145 Postby floridasun78 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:16 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:
chris46n wrote:Base on the models runs hitting Florida is very very small. So lets move on with that....

Okay, you seem to know the future so I'll see to you on that.

one my met in miami watching it still
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Models

#1146 Postby boca » Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:27 pm

It's always good to watch this but I'm feeling good about this staying away from Florida but my prayers are with the people of the islands down there.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Models

#1147 Postby chaser1 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:29 pm

What kind of crack is CMC on LOL?? With Jose darting Southeastward to about 30N it has reversed the storms putting Maria really close to the coast and Jose well to her east. Maybe it'll send Jose back to Africa with time :lol: . On another note, other than the CMC seemingly still wanting to re-develop Lee, I'm not seeing the model (or any other for that matter) really continuing to crank out more T.C.'s. 'Course, that'll change in a hurry but a breather should would be nice. My 18/11/4 pre-season prediction isn't looking too bad (I think we're presently at 13/7/4) if we go out 5/4/0 from here. From where we stand now though...... i'm beginning to think that we're more likely to exceed that though.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Models

#1148 Postby chris46n » Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:34 pm

Florida has never in the cone at all...... will past at least 300 miles east of Florida.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Models

#1149 Postby gatorcane » Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:34 pm

Big shift EAST by the NAM with noticeably less ridging at 54 hours. Has flight data been entered into this run of the NAM? That is a pretty big shift (yeah I know it is the NAM).
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Models

#1150 Postby gtalum » Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:35 pm

chris46n wrote:Florida has never in the cone at all...... will past at least 300 miles east of Florida.


I'm not that confident at this point, but it would be a massive failure on the part of the NHC if the eventual path isn't well east of FL.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Models

#1151 Postby northjaxpro » Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:37 pm

boca wrote:It's always good to watch this but I'm feeling good about this staying away from Florida but my prayers are with the people of the islands down there.


Amen. Praying for the people in Puerto Rico . God be with them!!! Godspeed!!
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Models

#1152 Postby NJWxHurricane » Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:39 pm

going to be watching this one very closely here on the shore
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Models

#1153 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:41 pm

gatorcane wrote:Big shift EAST by the NAM with noticeably less ridging at 54 hours. Has flight data been entered into this run of the NAM? That is a pretty big shift (yeah I know it is the NAM).


it is becasue this run it turns jose back south and never weakens jose.. lol

the gulfstream only took 3 hours ago.. little to no data..
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Models

#1154 Postby Evil Jeremy » Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:41 pm

Can't imagine GIV data is in yet, flight is still in progress and by my look they haven't sampled much of the environment yet.

I'm still of the mind that this won't be an issue for Florida, but further north is absolutely in play. Unless anything changes with the 00z run, with the GIV data, it would take one of the biggest model mess ups we've ever seen to bring this to Florida.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Models

#1155 Postby Ken711 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:42 pm

I've been afraid the Outer Banks,NC and Mid-Atlantic were always a likely outcome once the models stopping giving some much influence to Jose. Now the question is will it be a Cat 2 or Cat 3+ major hit. I think the other models like CMC/NAVGEM/Euro have already starting discounting that, and the others models will start a shifting east further over the coming days.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Models

#1156 Postby AdamFirst » Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:42 pm

I have plans this weekend. Driving to Melbourne. Would rather not have to cancel those plans due to unforeseen major hurricane.

I don't have as bad a feeling about this storm in relation to Florida as I did with Irma. Still a terrible situation for the islands, lest we forget in our state-casting hubbabaloo.

Will have to see what the G-IV flights bring to the table as well.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Models

#1157 Postby gtalum » Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:43 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:Can't imagine GIV data is in yet, flight is still in progress and by my look they haven't sampled much of the environment yet.

I'm still of the mind that this won't be an issue for Florida, but further north is absolutely in play. Unless anything changes with the 00z run, with the GIV data, it would take one of the biggest model mess ups we've ever seen to bring this to Florida.


Yeah, I wouldn't be shocked to see the track shift west enough to threaten somewhere from NC north.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Models

#1158 Postby floridasun78 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:44 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:Can't imagine GIV data is in yet, flight is still in progress and by my look they haven't sampled much of the environment yet.

I'm still of the mind that this won't be an issue for Florida, but further north is absolutely in play. Unless anything changes with the 00z run, with the GIV data, it would take one of the biggest model mess ups we've ever seen to bring this to Florida.

so my weatherman could say no issue for fl he say on last night we need watch it
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Models

#1159 Postby tpinnola » Tue Sep 19, 2017 4:27 pm

Any threat to New England? The 12z Euro brings it pretty far north. Probably too far out to tell.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Models

#1160 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 4:36 pm

tpinnola wrote:Any threat to New England? The 12z Euro brings it pretty far north. Probably too far out to tell.


In all honesty, it is too early to tell right now.
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