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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#21 Postby ronjon » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:29 pm

northjaxpro wrote::uarrow: That ASCAT shows that 92L is as close to being closed off as it can be. This may be a TD already.


Agreed. We may have our first east Atlantic long tracker this season.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#22 Postby Hammy » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:30 pm

Thetxhurricanemaster wrote:
northjaxpro wrote::uarrow: That ASCAT shows that 92L is as close to being closed off as it can be. This may be a TD already.

I wouldn't say that yet dude it has some way to go to develop a good LLC and most of the spin appears to be at mid levels for now


Plus winds are still pretty light--only 15kt on that pass.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#23 Postby Thetxhurricanemaster » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:33 pm

Hammy wrote:
Thetxhurricanemaster wrote:
northjaxpro wrote::uarrow: That ASCAT shows that 92L is as close to being closed off as it can be. This may be a TD already.

I wouldn't say that yet dude it has some way to go to develop a good LLC and most of the spin appears to be at mid levels for now


Plus winds are still pretty light--only 15kt on that pass.

Yeah this will take some time to develop down to the Lower levels
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#24 Postby northjaxpro » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:37 pm

Hammy wrote:
Thetxhurricanemaster wrote:
northjaxpro wrote::uarrow: That ASCAT shows that 92L is as close to being closed off as it can be. This may be a TD already.

I wouldn't say that yet dude it has some way to go to develop a good LLC and most of the spin appears to be at mid levels for now


Plus winds are still pretty light--only 15kt on that pass.


I think winds will be stronger a bit later as this reflects at surface level. The way it is organizing, I think this will be a TD quicker than you may realize. Just my thoughts. I will stick my neck out on this one. Sometimes we have to do that!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#25 Postby Blown Away » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:40 pm

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Near or a little WNW of 13.5N/29.4 W... Not bad looking invest...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#26 Postby Thetxhurricanemaster » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:41 pm

northjaxpro wrote:
Hammy wrote:
Thetxhurricanemaster wrote:I wouldn't say that yet dude it has some way to go to develop a good LLC and most of the spin appears to be at mid levels for now


Plus winds are still pretty light--only 15kt on that pass.


I think winds will be stronger a bit later as this reflects at surface level. The way it is organizing, I think this will be a TD quicker than you may realize. Just my thoughts.

It is certainly possible but that is yet to be seen its now cast time though so who knows and NHC update coming any minute
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#27 Postby gatorcane » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:47 pm

Up to 30/40:

Showers and thunderstorms have become a little better organized in
association with a low pressure area located a few hundred miles
west-southwest of the Cabo Verde Islands. Environmental conditions
appear conducive for additional development of this system while it
moves westward to west-northwestward at 15 to 20 mph. Upper-level
winds are likely to become less favorable for development by this
weekend.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...30 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...40 percent.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#28 Postby SFLcane » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:51 pm

Yea another short lived TD or TS in the works it seems before running into king Tutt
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#29 Postby caneseddy » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:56 pm

SFLcane wrote:Yea another short lived TD or TS in the works it seems before running into king Tutt


Gert ran into "King Tutt"and survived.; look at her now. :D

This is shaping to be a western based season where storms don't get going until past 60 West. :D
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#30 Postby northjaxpro » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:05 pm

caneseddy wrote:
SFLcane wrote:Yea another short lived TD or TS in the works it seems before running into king Tutt


Gert ran into "King Tutt"and survived.; look at her now. :D

This is shaping to be a western based season where storms don't get going until past 60 West. :D


That has already been the case for the most part to this juncture in the North Atlantic basin.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#31 Postby sma10 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:06 pm

SFLcane wrote:Yea another short lived TD or TS in the works it seems before running into king Tutt


Historically speaking, delayed development can be a very bad thing for the CONUS, something people often dismiss or forget.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#32 Postby Blown Away » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:08 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#33 Postby northjaxpro » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:09 pm

Well, NHC increased the odds for development in the short term in the latest TWO. They also mentioned how the system has become a bit better organized as well. So, I am not being far-fetched with rationalization that this could become a TD quite sooner than some anticipated earlier.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#34 Postby caneseddy » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:10 pm

sma10 wrote:
SFLcane wrote:Yea another short lived TD or TS in the works it seems before running into king Tutt


Historically speaking, delayed development can be a very bad thing for the CONUS, something people often dismiss or forget.


Yep, 2005 is the perfect example....all the major storms that hit the US formed west of 60 degrees with the exception of Dennis.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#35 Postby Thetxhurricanemaster » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:12 pm

caneseddy wrote:
sma10 wrote:
SFLcane wrote:Yea another short lived TD or TS in the works it seems before running into king Tutt


Historically speaking, delayed development can be a very bad thing for the CONUS, something people often dismiss or forget.


Yep, 2005 is the perfect example....all the major storms that hit the US formed west of 60 degrees with the exception of Dennis.

Correct and it's a wait and see game ... there is alot happening in the atmosphere these MDR systems will be hard to predict
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#36 Postby sma10 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:17 pm

caneseddy wrote:
sma10 wrote:
SFLcane wrote:Yea another short lived TD or TS in the works it seems before running into king Tutt


Historically speaking, delayed development can be a very bad thing for the CONUS, something people often dismiss or forget.


Yep, 2005 is the perfect example....all the major storms that hit the US formed west of 60 degrees with the exception of Dennis.


Andrew, Camille, Katrina, Labor Day ... all either formed or intensified past 70 degrees (in Andrew's case was just a weak TS until 65W).
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#37 Postby Thetxhurricanemaster » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:18 pm

sma10 wrote:
caneseddy wrote:
sma10 wrote:
Historically speaking, delayed development can be a very bad thing for the CONUS, something people often dismiss or forget.


Yep, 2005 is the perfect example....all the major storms that hit the US formed west of 60 degrees with the exception of Dennis.


Andrew, Camille, Katrina, Labor Day ... all either formed or intensified past 70 degrees (in Andrew's case was just a weak TS until 65W).

Nice analysis now let's get back to tracking 92L
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#38 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:19 pm

sma10 wrote:
SFLcane wrote:Yea another short lived TD or TS in the works it seems before running into king Tutt


Historically speaking, delayed development can be a very bad thing for the CONUS, something people often dismiss or forget.


excellent point...very dangerous when systems form west of 60..bigger fanfare for the monsters in the open atlantic but the closer in storms yield far more effects
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#39 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 15, 2017 2:02 pm

18z Best Track.

AL, 92, 2017081518, , BEST, 0, 136N, 314W, 20, 1012, LO
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#40 Postby Frank2 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 2:35 pm

My Calgary friends mentioned near-freezing low temps this morning - the troughs are soon to come...
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