ATL: JOSE - Post Tropical - Discussion

[bob rulz]

Of course Florida is going to get much more media coverage than Barbuda. Barbuda is about as populated as a couple of Miami blocks. I think the attention given to the Leeward Islands has actually been pretty good considering how overlooked they often are, even when major hurricanes hit them. I have seen several major news websites cover the damage and even send reporters to Barbuda and St. Martin (among I'm sure other places too).

And anyway, it looks like it's passing far enough to the east of Barbuda that the island should avoid any additional significant damage...assuming there's even anything there left to destroy.

Would have to make a pretty significant west wobble at this point to bring such conditions to them.

[Digital-TC-Chaser]

Dawn breaking

[hipshot]

Of course Florida is going to get much more media coverage than Barbuda. Barbuda is about as populated as a couple of Miami blocks. I think the attention given to the Leeward Islands has actually been pretty good considering how overlooked they often are, even when major hurricanes hit them. I have seen several major news websites cover the damage and even send reporters to Barbuda and St. Martin (among I'm sure other places too).

And anyway, it looks like it's passing far enough to the east of Barbuda that the island should avoid any additional significant damage...assuming there's even anything there left to destroy.

Would have to make a pretty significant west wobble at this point to bring such conditions to them.

Is the image at the top of these pages reflecting a loop for Jose. I see a black line after the orange dots and IIRC, a loop was in the forecast some time ago. God I hope not!!

[tiger_deF]

I am personally watching Jose like a hawk. unlike Gert or Irma the steering currents here resemble that of Harvey; very unpredictable and fairly weak. Even though Irma is stealing the show Jose is still a major hurricane.

[euro6208]

While Florida is about to deal with Irma (but weaker) and the other islands already suffering a devastating blow, Jose is again coming right at them. Just imagine if it was the other way around with Florida. The hype would be off the chart. Getting awfully close to Barbuda who just suffered a 160 knot landfall yet all attention is to the sunshine state...

I see your point about a devastating landfall, it has been punishing for Barbuda for the past few days and here goes another... The media gave sufficient coverage for this storm.

The main reason why the media is putting their attention on Florida is because it contains Miami, which is among the most highly populated metropolitan areas in the United States, cities like Orlando and Tampa and is densely populated whilst growing rapidly. It would be the first time since Hurricane Andrew that a major hurricane of that strength (IMO it would be stronger than Charley) would strike the state, and the swath of impact and winds is huge. The area has significant infrastructure and establishments built on the foundation of their cities and if destroyed, damage would reach hundreds of billions of dollars. I myself have relatives and friends over Palm Beach County, Port St. Lucie, Orlando and Vero Beach.

Not downplaying Jose's possible impact on the Antilles but Irma's coverage is not at all unwarranted.

The media is of course based in the U.S and is 90 percent U.S coverage. As you say ** first time since Hurricane Andrew that a major hurricane of that strength (IMO it would be stronger than Charley) would strike the state**...Maybe... but it is missing Miami to the west. It isn't about the size of the cities or densely populated areas, it's where it hits closer to home which is where the media likes to hype.

We could have families and friends too living in the caribbean islands that Irma devastated.

[Patrick99]

Just FYI, Craig Setzer on Miami's channel 4 last night, virtually guaranteed Jose would not be a problem. Seemed a little premature since some of those models look way too Jeanne-esque for my liking.

This hurricane season is going to be just one ugly possibility after another, isn't it?

[galaxy401]

Fortunately, Jose is for the most part missing the islands. They don't need another monster hurricane on them. Long term, this storm still bears watching. If Irma didn't exist, there would be many more pages with this storm. Watching Irma now but once that storm is out of the picture, then it's time to keep an eye on Jose.

[xtyphooncyclonex]

While Florida is about to deal with Irma (but weaker) and the other islands already suffering a devastating blow, Jose is again coming right at them. Just imagine if it was the other way around with Florida. The hype would be off the chart. Getting awfully close to Barbuda who just suffered a 160 knot landfall yet all attention is to the sunshine state...

I see your point about a devastating landfall, it has been punishing for Barbuda for the past few days and here goes another... The media gave sufficient coverage for this storm.

The main reason why the media is putting their attention on Florida is because it contains Miami, which is among the most highly populated metropolitan areas in the United States, cities like Orlando and Tampa and is densely populated whilst growing rapidly. It would be the first time since Hurricane Andrew that a major hurricane of that strength (IMO it would be stronger than Charley) would strike the state, and the swath of impact and winds is huge. The area has significant infrastructure and establishments built on the foundation of their cities and if destroyed, damage would reach hundreds of billions of dollars. I myself have relatives and friends over Palm Beach County, Port St. Lucie, Orlando and Vero Beach.

Not downplaying Jose's possible impact on the Antilles but Irma's coverage is not at all unwarranted.

The media is of course based in the U.S and is 90 percent U.S coverage. As you say ** first time since Hurricane Andrew that a major hurricane of that strength (IMO it would be stronger than Charley) would strike the state**...Maybe... but it is missing Miami to the west. It isn't about the size of the cities or densely populated areas, it's where it hits closer to home which is where the media likes to hype.

We could have families and friends too living in the caribbean islands that Irma devastated.

All of us know it will miss Miami to the west, but its wind field would be large enough to bring hurricane-force winds to a large portion of Florida. In terms of strongest since Andrew, I didn't explicitly mention Miami but the state of Florida as a whole. It will be devastating regardless of where. Damage would exceed tens of not a hundred billion dollars. However, back to the topic....


Jose should've been a category 5 as well. It isn't always in the strength of convection or shape in the eye but there is something that struck me structure-wise that prompted me to think this was....

[xtyphooncyclonex]

I'm worried about the loop scenario playing out and becoming a plausible track

[Ptarmigan]

Fortunately, Jose is for the most part missing the islands. They don't need another monster hurricane on them. Long term, this storm still bears watching. If Irma didn't exist, there would be many more pages with this storm. Watching Irma now but once that storm is out of the picture, then it's time to keep an eye on Jose.

Jose should stay very faraway from any landmass.

[galaxy401]

Fortunately, Jose is for the most part missing the islands. They don't need another monster hurricane on them. Long term, this storm still bears watching. If Irma didn't exist, there would be many more pages with this storm. Watching Irma now but once that storm is out of the picture, then it's time to keep an eye on Jose.

Jose should stay very faraway from any landmass.

Not what the models might be hinting in the long range. Might not happen, but we can't rule it out yet.

[Ptarmigan]

Fortunately, Jose is for the most part missing the islands. They don't need another monster hurricane on them. Long term, this storm still bears watching. If Irma didn't exist, there would be many more pages with this storm. Watching Irma now but once that storm is out of the picture, then it's time to keep an eye on Jose.

Jose should stay very faraway from any landmass.

Not what the models might be hinting in the long range. Might not happen, but we can't rule it out yet.

I know. It is wishful thinking.

[WeatherGuesser]

Quick scan of the posts .....

Loop back to west is possible?

[Buck]

Wow, Jose could end up joining Irma in the highest ACE earners list.

[Kingarabian]

Jose, you will get your share of attention soon if these models keep showing an east coast hit/close call.

[EquusStorm]

Looking really good again this evening. If Irma wasn't also out there, everyone would be hooked on the Jose threads in awe at its intensity and structure. I mean it's in second place due to Irma's obviously far greater impact and threat and so for good reason, but it's impressive how it remains a bit stronger than the now-infamous big sister to the west. Plus, with its slowing down and looping, it's likely to produce a good chunk of ACE in the coming week or so... even though it will eventually weaken.

[Iune]

Based on the NHC's wind history chart, it appears that with the exception of Barbuda, which received sustained tropical storm force winds, the rest of the Leewards appear to have escaped Jose's impact. Hopefully, the damage on Barbuda will not be too much on top of Irma's devastation.

[bob rulz]

I'm not sure there was much left on Barbuda for Jose to destroy anyway.

[MrStormX]

Jose unfortunately might end up being a problem in the long term for the East Coast, it is certainly not priority one at the moment given Irma, but it is something to watch.

[Exalt]

Florida might just get a double whammy.