ATL: IRMA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2481 Postby AubreyStorm » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:11 am

Hurricaneman wrote:
GCANE wrote:New drop just came in.

947mb
16.8N 52.6W

Moving west or north of due west based on that

Not good right?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2482 Postby CourierPR » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:11 am

Hurricaneman wrote:
GCANE wrote:New drop just came in.

947mb
16.8N 52.6W

Moving west or north of due west based on that


Eight A.M. bulletin says movement WSW at 255 degrees.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2483 Postby Hurricaneman » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:15 am

AubreyStorm wrote:
Hurricaneman wrote:
GCANE wrote:New drop just came in.

947mb
16.8N 52.6W

Moving west or north of due west based on that

Not good right?

I think no matter what it's going to hit the NE lesser Antilles head on but better for Puerto Rico and Hispaniola but that could still change. Beyond that there's still a lot of spread from south of Cuba to the Florida straits and from there North Carolina to Mississippi
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2484 Postby Hurricaneman » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:15 am

CourierPR wrote:
Hurricaneman wrote:
GCANE wrote:New drop just came in.

947mb
16.8N 52.6W

Moving west or north of due west based on that


Eight A.M. bulletin says movement WSW at 255 degrees.

That will probably be adjusted at 11
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2485 Postby storm4u » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:19 am

The models have this on a more wsw mostion for the better part of today.. If its already moving a little north of west they should adjust

Hurricaneman wrote:
GCANE wrote:New drop just came in.

947mb
16.8N 52.6W

Moving west or north of due west based on that
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2486 Postby weathaguyry » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:19 am

Hmm, if this is starting to move due W, and won't dip south and farther, I wonder if it would have any implications on future track. The most immediate thought is that it may spare the brunt of the storm for PR, but it may be a little to late for the NE Leewards. :(
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2487 Postby GCANE » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:20 am

Irma's outflow is pretty much pushing any shear out of its way on the outer N & NW quad.

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2488 Postby CourierPR » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:20 am

Hurricaneman wrote:
CourierPR wrote:
Hurricaneman wrote:Moving west or north of due west based on that


Eight A.M. bulletin says movement WSW at 255 degrees.

That will probably be adjusted at 11


If a hurricane hunter sent that position and heading, I would think no "adjustment" would be necessary.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2489 Postby jlauderdal » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:24 am

weathaguyry wrote:Hmm, if this is starting to move due W, and won't dip south and farther, I wonder if it would have any implications on future track. The most immediate thought is that it may spare the brunt of the storm for PR, but it may be a little to late for the NE Leewards. :(
every inch it moves regardless of direction has future implications..do they wobble, yes, do those wobbles effect track, absolutely even after smoothing it out...bottom line, as long as its proceeding south and west it increases chances of a united states hit..first up is our friends in islands, hopefully it stays to their north
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2490 Postby Gustywind » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:26 am

DATE/TIME LAT LON CLASSIFICATION STORM
04/1145 UTC 16.9N 52.6W T5.5/5.5 IRMA
04/0545 UTC 17.0N 51.5W T5.0/5.0 IRMA
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2491 Postby BobHarlem » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:27 am

If the trend continues further west it's probably better overall (not for individual areas) but it woulds mean Hispaniola and Cuban mountain interaction which could kill the system. (North coast of Cuba alone wouldn't do it though)
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2492 Postby HurricaneFrances04 » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:29 am

Could be a wobble. Models still show somewhat of a southerly component for the next 12-18 hours. If it continues to head due west instead of WSW, could see the windshield wiper effect with the models. That would be good news for Antilles, bad news for the Bahamas and US East Coast.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2493 Postby WeatherGuesser » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:31 am

Gang, you can't fix direction based on a drop or point here or there. This thing has been wobbling for days and may continue to do so. You have to look at the longer term over a matter of hours.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2494 Postby CronkPSU » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:33 am

Don't they base direction on a 6 hour average and not just movement from drop to drop or hour to hour?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2495 Postby WeatherGuesser » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:34 am

Sanibel wrote:Track will probably lock now


Track will not 'lock' for several more days, if then.


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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2496 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:41 am

CronkPSU wrote:Don't they base direction on a 6 hour average and not just movement from drop to drop or hour to hour?

I believe it is 12 hours, but I might be wrong.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2497 Postby Blown Away » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:42 am

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Don't need recon, it's pretty much due W now...
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2498 Postby pcolaman » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:45 am

Blown Away wrote:Image
Don't need recon, it's pretty much due W now...

Looks like she is expanding now.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2499 Postby Hurricaneman » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:45 am

Blown Away wrote:Image
Don't need recon, it's pretty much due W now...

Looks like it wobbled to 17n but that could be an artifact
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2500 Postby ObsessedMiami » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:45 am

WeatherGuesser wrote:
Sanibel wrote:Track will probably lock now


Track will not 'lock' for several more days, if then.


..

If ever, really.
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