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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3081 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:11 pm

Islands in trouble at hour 72 on the ECMWF.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3082 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:13 pm

Still a bit slower and more NE
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3083 Postby Evenstar » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:13 pm

Michele B wrote:
Alyono wrote:
tarheelprogrammer wrote:
Trough is strong there. Maybe it is OTS????????



If you want an out to sea scenario, you want a WEAK TROUGH!!! This is said many times, but needs to be repeated. A stronger trough is going to have a sharper tilt, if not a negative tilt. That will only bring the storm inland. A weak trough is more zonal



I hope I can shed a little light on this. Please, promets, correct me if I state this wrong:

Think of a LOW pressure trough like a bowl...it will draw the storm INTO it, like water spilling INTO a bowl.
A HIGH pressure ridge is like the bowl turned upside down. It will repel the storm AWAY from and around it.


Michelle, you are genius. You have finally explained the high pressure ridge and the low pressure trough thing in a way I can understand...
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3084 Postby sma10 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:15 pm

AxaltaRacing24 wrote:Still a bit slower and more NE
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How are you comparing? The only apples to apples is with Fri 12z ... i show the sat 12z slightly faster
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3085 Postby TheStormExpert » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:16 pm

96hrs.

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3086 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:16 pm

sma10 wrote:
AxaltaRacing24 wrote:Still a bit slower and more NE
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How are you comparing? The only apples to apples is with Fri 12z ... i show the sat 12z slightly faster

I have a separate tab open and I go back and fourth to compare lat/lon and ridging/toughing.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3087 Postby SFLcane » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:16 pm

12 EURO is into the north islands... :eek:
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3088 Postby SouthFLTropics » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:18 pm

Ouch

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3089 Postby crimi481 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:18 pm

So if Irma slows down sooner than later, should give the ridge time to strengthen. Ya think?

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3090 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:18 pm

Stronger trough and ridging
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3091 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:18 pm

not to rhyme.. but its slower and lower...
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3092 Postby cycloneye » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:18 pm

I am going to get a decent blow if it verifies. :eek:
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3093 Postby SFLcane » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:19 pm

Futher South indeed PR in play here
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3094 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:19 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:not to rhyme.. but its slower and lower...

Basically all models so far today have shifted SW overall.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3095 Postby Michele B » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:20 pm

WAcyclone wrote:Does anyone know if the adjustment techniques used by CFAN are actually increasing the forecast skill? According to Jeff Master's most recent post, the adjusted ECMWF operational run (red line) takes Irma right into southern Florida. The same scenario is shown by three of the five so-called "high probability clusters" (which are probably adjusted EPS members). However, the WSW movement in the Bahamas seems very suspect to me...

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Source: https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/hurricane-irma-track-towards-lesser-antilles


What is that red line? Why is that RED LINE going right over my house?!?!?!?!?

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3096 Postby Michele B » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:21 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:not to rhyme.. but its slower and lower...


Slower is not good. Slower allows the trough to pull out and miss influencing Irma
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3097 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:21 pm

trough should lift out on the by 120 hours.. looks similar to the 00z it terms of timing of trough but irma is slower.. possible florida landfall this time.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3098 Postby TheStormExpert » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:21 pm

120hrs.

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3099 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:21 pm

Bahamas still in play.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3100 Postby crimi481 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:22 pm

Possibly fools us all, and goes under P.R. to Jamaica. Models seem to trend slower and s.
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