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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3541 Postby Steve » Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:16 pm

Yeah, sma10. Whatever it is, it's interesting.

Notice those < -80 degree pinks rotating every once in a while. It's only simulated IR, but I thought that scale stopped at white. And you only get white if you can get it past black and grey. But Pink? Maybe it's unique to that scale only.

Even if it never hit land, based on the 4/5/6 day duration of Cat 4, Irma would join Harvey as a retired name.

Insane. It's so cold and high up that it looks like a dry air slot!
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 218&fh=126
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3542 Postby gatorcane » Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:16 pm

I have to admit that is quite a shift south on the HWRF. Another look at how the run ends below. It keeps shifting south each run. Islands watch out.


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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3543 Postby AutoPenalti » Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:17 pm

Didn't someone mention that the HWRF-parent was it to be used for tracking? Or was it the Parallel?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3544 Postby SouthFLTropics » Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:18 pm

gatorcane wrote:I have to admit that is quite a shift south on the HWRF. Another look at how the run ends below. It keeps shifting south each run. Islands watch out.


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That's the 12z Gator...18z is even further South.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3545 Postby gatorcane » Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:20 pm

Whoops was comparing the 12Z vs 18Z and didnt upload right image. 18Z below. Also doesn't look to be gaining as much latitude compared to 12Z:

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3546 Postby SouthFLTropics » Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:20 pm

Anybody have the rest of the output from the NAVGEM? TT has stuck on 144 hours.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3547 Postby gatorcane » Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:24 pm

SouthFLTropics wrote:Anybody have the rest of the output from the NAVGEM? TT has stuck on 144 hours.


:eek: the NAVGEM keeps inching west too each run. How about how large:

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3548 Postby GeneratorPower » Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:25 pm

gatorcane wrote:Whoops was comparing the 12Z vs 18Z and didnt upload right image. 18Z below. Also doesn't look to be gaining as much latitude compared to 12Z:

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Looks like a Bahama Mama
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3549 Postby caneman » Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:29 pm

It looks like it's going to be a monster size wise
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3550 Postby Michele B » Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:30 pm

GeneratorPower wrote:
gatorcane wrote:Whoops was comparing the 12Z vs 18Z and didnt upload right image. 18Z below. Also doesn't look to be gaining as much latitude compared to 12Z:

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Looks like a Bahama Mama


What is that pink, white and grey "Eyebrow" thingy??

Is that higher, colder clouds or dry air? It's either a very good or very bad thing.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3551 Postby Blown Away » Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:33 pm

gatorcane wrote:I have to admit that is quite a shift south on the HWRF. Another look at how the run ends below. It keeps shifting south each run. Islands watch out.


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HWRF is almost exactly at the NHC 5 day position of 22N/68W...
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3552 Postby weathaguyry » Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:33 pm

Michele B wrote:
GeneratorPower wrote:
gatorcane wrote:Whoops was comparing the 12Z vs 18Z and didnt upload right image. 18Z below. Also doesn't look to be gaining as much latitude compared to 12Z:

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Looks like a Bahama Mama


What is that pink, white and grey "Eyebrow" thingy??

Is that higher, colder clouds or dry air? It's either a very good or very bad thing.


Colder clouds, you can see on the scale to the right :(
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3553 Postby SouthFLTropics » Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:35 pm

weathaguyry wrote:
Michele B wrote:
GeneratorPower wrote:
Looks like a Bahama Mama


What is that pink, white and grey "Eyebrow" thingy??

Is that higher, colder clouds or dry air? It's either a very good or very bad thing.




Colder clouds, you can see on the scale to the right :(


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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3554 Postby Steve » Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:35 pm

Yeah, that's what I was alluding to. It's temperature which means ridiculous heights or pressure so low that it sucks cold air down from higher up. You don't see that ever. It looks like a dry slot it's so intense.

Oh, and NAVGEM only goes out to 144 at 18Z (or that's all they release if they run it out further).
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3555 Postby stormreader » Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:40 pm

I do love the relative size of the eye in that forecast pic, to say... Puerto Rico...
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3556 Postby sma10 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:43 pm

Blown Away wrote:
gatorcane wrote:I have to admit that is quite a shift south on the HWRF. Another look at how the run ends below. It keeps shifting south each run. Islands watch out.


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HWRF is almost exactly at the NHC 5 day position of 22N/68W...


You've posted the 12z run. The 18z is south of this
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3557 Postby Nimbus » Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:47 pm

Steve wrote:Yeah, that's what I was alluding to. It's temperature which means ridiculous heights or pressure so low that it sucks cold air down from higher up. You don't see that ever. It looks like a dry slot it's so intense.

Oh, and NAVGEM only goes out to 144 at 18Z (or that's all they release if they run it out further).


There is a delay from the upslope of the mountains with an intense storm like that so that part was probably intentional.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3558 Postby ronjon » Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:48 pm

stormreader wrote:I do love the relative size of the eye in that forecast pic, to say... Puerto Rico...


Yeah those model simulated IR plots are always way overdone.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3559 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:48 pm

gatorcane wrote:
SouthFLTropics wrote:Anybody have the rest of the output from the NAVGEM? TT has stuck on 144 hours.


:eek: the NAVGEM keeps inching west too each run. How about how large:

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The precip swave on this is a good indicator of what may occur Wobbles may be N or S of the centre swave.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3560 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:50 pm

Digital-TC-Chaser wrote:
gatorcane wrote:
SouthFLTropics wrote:Anybody have the rest of the output from the NAVGEM? TT has stuck on 144 hours.


:eek: the NAVGEM keeps inching west too each run. How about how large:

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Image
The precip swave on this is a good indicator of what may occur Wobbles may be N or S of the centre swave.
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