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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#461 Postby SFLcane » Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:37 am

Ah there ya go 00z GFS was just beginning with it's trend out to sea now 06z GFS is way north rest of models should follow. CMC also big shift north over night. Expect euro will come around later today. Folks this is in an highly unlikely location to impact the US.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#462 Postby SFLcane » Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:41 am

Won't even make it past 70w recurving already near Bermuda.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#463 Postby pavelbure224 » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:03 am

Living in South Florida I have seen my fair share of storms. I think we should all be vigilant because it's only Wednesday. We are a least a week and a half away from it. We all know how these models change. I would think by this time next week we would have a better idea on what the future holds.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#464 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:17 am

SFLcane wrote:Won't even make it past 70w recurving already near Bermuda.
dont be suckered into each model run of the gfs, seen this many times, next one could be into barbados
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#465 Postby SFLcane » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:24 am

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SFLcane wrote:Won't even make it past 70w recurving already near Bermuda.
dont be suckered into each model run of the gfs, seen this many times, next one could be into barbados


oh iam not trust me it could easily drop development. just stating its highly unlikely at its currently latitude being named it manages to make it that further west. Sooner rather then later it will feel a tug from a trof.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#466 Postby GeneratorPower » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:24 am

This storm may surprise you. It's bigger than many and getting strong. It could feel the effects of the ridge to the north faster and begin the projected SW motion sooner. Might have a shot at losing lattitude and getting in a better position.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#467 Postby RL3AO » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:25 am

SFLcane wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:
SFLcane wrote:Won't even make it past 70w recurving already near Bermuda.
dont be suckered into each model run of the gfs, seen this many times, next one could be into barbados


oh iam not trust me it could easily drop development. just stating its highly unlikely at its currently latitude being named it manages to make it that further west. Sooner rather then later will feel a tug from a trof.


I don't get this logic. Both models have it losing 5 degrees of latitude in the coming days. You wouldn't say the same thing about a storm at 15N 55W where the Euro has it in 5 days.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#468 Postby USTropics » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:27 am

At that range, I would follow the ensemble trends over an operational run of a model. The 00z ECMWF ensembles seem to suggest that interests in the Caribbean are more at threat than Bermuda:

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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#469 Postby WAcyclone » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:28 am

Digital-TC-Chaser wrote:Bermuda is likely under the pump and maybe a major C 3/4.


Based on the 00z EPS, the threat appears to be greater for the Yucatan peninsula (about 12 % of the ensembles) than for Bermuda (I found no direct landfall and almost all members are well west of the island). All tracks between Central America and east of Bermuda are still possible :D
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#470 Postby SFLcane » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:28 am

hmmm tha'ts some signal near Florida from the GEFS ensembles..

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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#471 Postby USTropics » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:29 am

Also does anyone have the website that shows the individual member runs for the ECMWF ensembles? Someone posted it a week or two ago but lost the link.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#472 Postby Nimbus » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:32 am

Took 24 pages before the models started recurving this away from the ConUS.
I remember the years when the models started out all tracking way too far north near the Cape Verde islands. Guess this year its strong ridging with a far west TUTT probability.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#473 Postby WAcyclone » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:33 am

USTropics wrote:Also does anyone have the website that shows the individual member runs for the ECMWF ensembles? Someone posted it a week or two ago but lost the link.


This is the only one I know of where you can check all 51 ensemble members: https://weather.us/model-charts/euro/724-w-263-n/sea-level-pressure/20170908-1800z.html
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#474 Postby RL3AO » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:34 am

0z EPS

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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#475 Postby SFLcane » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:36 am

USTropics wrote:Also does anyone have the website that shows the individual member runs for the ECMWF ensembles? Someone posted it a week or two ago but lost the link.


Quite the concentration also near Florida..

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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#476 Postby canefan » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:47 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#477 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:57 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#478 Postby hurricaneCW » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:03 am

SFLcane wrote:Won't even make it past 70w recurving already near Bermuda.


That's quite an assumption for a 10+ day forecast. I'm sure no one expected Harvey to be a Cat 4 and dump over 50" several days before landfall.

I'll give you this, based on it's current latitude, the time of year, and its quick development then it probably has a 75% chance of recurving before 70W but not all storms are alike.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#479 Postby perk » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:10 am

SFLcane wrote:Won't even make it past 70w recurving already near Bermuda.



The GFS and the Euro buried Harvey in Mexico and many on this forum agreed.We see how that turned out.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#480 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:11 am

hurricaneCW wrote:
SFLcane wrote:Won't even make it past 70w recurving already near Bermuda.


That's quite an assumption for a 10+ day forecast. I'm sure no one expected Harvey to be a Cat 4 and dump over 50" several days before landfall.

I'll give you this, based on it's current latitude, the time of year, and its quick development then it probably has a 75% chance of recurving before 70W but not all storms are alike.
soflcane has been optimistic all morning about a recurve, lets see what happens
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