ATL: IRMA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5421 Postby ronyan » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:20 am

meriland29 wrote:Has she been at 185mph the entire night as per NHC or has there been fluctuations in speed ?


NHC has had it at 185 mph since yesterday afternoon.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5422 Postby KBBOCA » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:20 am

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5423 Postby Extratropical94 » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:21 am

Aric Dunn wrote:
ronyan wrote:NHC didn't have data from the RFQ when the advisory went up, may lower slightly with the intermediate advisory.


still pretty much supports 180 to 185. they would wait for more passes before doing anything and especially a eyewall drop..


"Only" 100 knots at the lowest levels in the NE eyewall, but plenty of 160s and 170s on the way down, even below 900mb
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5424 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:21 am

So what is going on with this shear; is it supposed to let up around the Straight? Because ALL models show significant re-strengthening there.

My updated forecast will be out today...
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5425 Postby meriland29 » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:22 am

Does she look any weaker or stronger? Or does recon have updates? On my phone so limited on what I can see
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5426 Postby dukeblue219 » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:22 am

meriland29 wrote:Has she been at 185mph the entire night as per NHC or has there been fluctuations in speed ?


There's really no way to know. There was a recon gap during the early morning hours, particularly while Irma was making landfalls on the various islands. There's been no clear cut proof it weakened overnight, although it does look like a slow reduction in wind is possible today.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5427 Postby meriland29 » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:23 am

Hurricane Andrew wrote:So what is going on with this shear; is it supposed to let up around the Straight? Because ALL models show significant re-strengthening there.

My updated forecast will be out today...

Except for the nhc, who thinks she will gradually weaken
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5428 Postby Extratropical94 » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:24 am

meriland29 wrote:Does she look any weaker or stronger? Or does recon have updates? On my phone so limited on what I can see


She is looking a tad weaker, and her pressure has gone up a few mbars over the course of the day. FL winds have pretty much remained the same, SFMRs have gone down a bit. I'd say 150-155 knots right now.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5429 Postby KBBOCA » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:24 am

Quite a few phony videos going around on facebook... be careful what you share

 https://twitter.com/MJVentrice/status/905451177160175616


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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5430 Postby galaxy401 » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:26 am

So is the Facebook Live video at the previous page also a phony or legit?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5431 Postby hurricaneCW » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:27 am

KBBOCA wrote:Quite a few phony videos going around on facebook... be careful what you share

 https://twitter.com/MJVentrice/status/905451177160175616




Phony Facebook videos...Shocker!!!

This is why people need to pay attention to officials instead of chewing everything up on social media.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Main Recon Thread (Data only)

#5432 Postby Extratropical94 » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:29 am

URNT15 KNHC 061527
AF305 1311A IRMA HDOB 18 20170906
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152500 1930N 06305W 6967 03141 0029 +099 +084 122059 060 051 000 00
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152630 1930N 06312W 6965 03141 0029 +094 +090 121065 066 053 000 00
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5433 Postby supercane4867 » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:29 am

Irma has been encountering near 10kts of SW to southerly shear since last night as shown in the CIMSS shear map, which currently keeps any strengthening in check. The significant deepening in the Bahamas predicted by global models is mainly due to strong poleward outflow channel opening up once she feels the trough to the north
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5434 Postby NDG » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:30 am

Updated radar loop. NW quadrant eyewall now affecting the British Virgin Islands.

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5435 Postby WeatherOrKnot » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:31 am

Michele B wrote:
I want to add, too, that with so many lives at stake, I cannot for the life of me, figure out what one gains by telling so many reading here that it's OK to sound the all clear at this point.

You could, literally, be dooming thousands to a very bad fate.

What does one hope to gain in doing this? Is it just the sense of "being right" about something? IDK


That's exactly what it is. Go COMPLETELY against the grain "on a hunch" just so that JUST IN CASE they somehow are right, they get a huge pat on the back. Either that or they have Pollyanna syndrome.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5436 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:31 am

supercane4867 wrote:Irma has been encountering near 10kts of SW to southerly shear since last night as shown in the CIMSS shear map, which currently keeps any strengthening in check. The significant deepening in the Bahamas predicted by global models is mainly due to strong poleward outflow channel opening up once she feels the trough to the north

Thank you! Is that shear supposed to decrease as well?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5437 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:32 am

JB has shifted his forecast east with a LF around dade/broward back out to sea with second landfall in area of GA/SC border
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5438 Postby meriland29 » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:32 am

Do you know how long she is expected to ve effected by that shear?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5439 Postby NDG » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:32 am

supercane4867 wrote:Irma has been encountering near 10kts of SW to southerly shear since last night as shown in the CIMSS shear map, which currently keeps any strengthening in check. The significant deepening in the Bahamas predicted by global models is mainly due to strong poleward outflow channel opening up once she feels the trough to the north


I would be taking those CIMSS shear maps as a grain of salt, it was showing 15 knots of shear over Harvey right when it was intensifying into a Major Hurricane.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5440 Postby Blown Away » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:34 am

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Could argue a little S of the forecast track, may wobble back...
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