ATL: HARVEY - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#561 Postby NDG » Sat Aug 19, 2017 5:54 am

It seems to me that the LLC of Harvey is further west this morning than what the NHC thinks based on the wind reports from buoy 42059.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#562 Postby Thetxhurricanemaster » Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:01 am

NDG wrote:It seems to me that the LLC of Harvey is further west this morning than what the NHC thinks based on the wind reports from buoy 42059.

Post the reports ? Please
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#563 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:02 am

Will be interesting to see what Recon finds.
CIMSS is showing nearly open vorts at 850mb and 700mb.
500mb vort quite a bit south of them.

The TUTT over the Keys continues to degrade slowly.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#564 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:08 am

Very high rain rate.
He's keeping his head above the East Carib waters.

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#565 Postby NDG » Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:11 am

Thetxhurricanemaster wrote:
NDG wrote:It seems to me that the LLC of Harvey is further west this morning than what the NHC thinks based on the wind reports from buoy 42059.

Post the reports ? Please


http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=42059
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#566 Postby AtlanticWind » Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:19 am

Harvey looks like it may be opening to a wave on the early morning visible.
92L seems to be finding a way to survive.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#567 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:22 am

Very dry air to the NW of Harvey.

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#568 Postby NDG » Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:34 am

So far the recon is finding a fairly weak eastern quadrant of the circulation, most of the wx still looks to be to the west of it.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#569 Postby tolakram » Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:41 am

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#570 Postby srainhoutx » Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:43 am

Harvey did speed up its Westward motion overnight. That increase in forward speed likely will work in favor of keeping Harvey alive over the next 24 hours when we see a decrease in wind shear. Conditions continue to look optimal in the Western/NW Caribbean as Harvey slows down and the Easterly Trade Winds weaken dramatically. Harvey is far from over this morning.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#571 Postby NDG » Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:50 am



You could be right, recon has not been able to find a closed circulation so far, unless they are looking in the wrong area.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#572 Postby HURAKAN » Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:57 am

looks wavy ;)
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#573 Postby Nimbus » Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:00 am

Harvey has been moving so fast that the circulation may be what they call "storm relative circulation" meaning there is no measurable west wind in the southern quadrant. The forecast slowdown in forward motion still should allow for intensification in the western Caribbean.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#574 Postby NDG » Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:01 am

Latest recon reports shows it may still have a closed circulation but a broad one, unless the LLC is re-developing further west at the moment, trying to keep up with the deep convection being pushed west by the mid and upper level winds.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#575 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:03 am

I will be surprised if recon don't find winds close to 40kts from the NE.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#576 Postby HURAKAN » Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:07 am

Looks like a wave too in the infrared

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... display=12
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#577 Postby NDG » Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:10 am

Circulation is still closed, based on latest recon report.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#578 Postby wxman57 » Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:13 am

I'm not seeing any recon report that suggests a closed circulation. Obs from Aruba and Curacao to the south suggest a wave. If the center is west of where I put the crosshairs (a guess at "center" location based on recon), then it's in even worse shape. Doesn't mean it won't become a TS farther west, but it does look like a wave today.

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#579 Postby NDG » Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:15 am

wxman57 wrote:I'm not seeing any recon report that suggests a closed circulation. Obs from Aruba and Curacao to the south suggest a wave. If the center is west of where I put the crosshairs (a guess at "center" location based on recon), then it's in even worse shape. Doesn't mean it won't become a TS farther west, but it does look like a wave today.

http://wxman57.com/images/Harvey3.JPG


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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#580 Postby xironman » Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:16 am

Not definitive, but a west wind at the surface

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1009mb (29.80 inHg)    Surface (Sea Level)    26.8°C (80.2°F)    23.7°C (75°F)    280° (from the W)    8 knots (9 mph)
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