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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5821 Postby Blown Away » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:05 pm

HP seems tad weaker and trough tad stronger... It's subtle differences
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5822 Postby SouthFLTropics » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:06 pm

12z GFS Ensembles continue to light up South Florida like a Christmas tree

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5823 Postby SouthDadeFish » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:06 pm

12Z EC is very slightly NW of 00Z EC through 54 hours. Brings the core of the TC through the Leewards. Very dangerous situation.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5824 Postby ronjon » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:06 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:Euro seems south already.. direct hit on the NE islands..


Perhaps following UKMETs lead?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5825 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:07 pm

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5826 Postby Blown Away » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:07 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:Euro seems south already.. direct hit on the NE islands..


Are your sure? Seems a tad N from previous run?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5827 Postby gatorcane » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:07 pm

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5828 Postby Yellow Evan » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:08 pm

12z ECMWF through 54 hours like the 0z. At 947 mbar at hour 54.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5829 Postby drezee » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:08 pm

SouthDadeFish wrote:12Z EC is very slightly NW of 00Z EC through 54 hours. Brings the core of the TC through the Leewards. Very dangerous situation.

For two days the 12z is out to sea while the 0z is a hit...model is having issues with initialization upstream
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5830 Postby SouthDadeFish » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:09 pm

The trough over the eastern CONUS looks slightly deeper this run than the past two. The key is how long it hangs around for.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5831 Postby latitude_20 » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:09 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:
latitude_20 wrote:Is there any chance this will clip the northeastern Yucatan?


Hasn't been in the realm of the discussion. At the moment, the models don't see this going further west than Florida.


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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5832 Postby Steve » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:12 pm

HWRF 126 hours

12Z - 22.1N 80.70W
06Z - 21.3N 78.75W
00Z - 21.5N 76.60W

So those are all 6 hours apart, but I think HWRF says whatever the interplay is with Cuba will curtail the intensity for a while if it is correct. It hasn't deviated from a more or less WNW movement though so I could see this curling up toward the W Coast of Florida as some of the other models have recently done.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5833 Postby forecasterjack » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:12 pm

12Z ECMWF with a glancing blow to PR. Still too close for comfort https://weather.us/model-charts/euro/67 ... 0000z.html
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5834 Postby txwatcher91 » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:12 pm

SouthDadeFish wrote:The trough over the eastern CONUS looks slightly deeper this run than the past two. The key is how long it hangs around for.


A deeper trough that hangs around longer would create a quicker N turn, correct?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5835 Postby robbielyn » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:12 pm

ROCK wrote:
Steve wrote:NAVGEM has a Cat 3 952mb system hitting around Tampa Bay via the western Florida Keys at 144 hours. That's valid Sunday 8am EDT. That seems a little fast to come up and under in 6 days to me. I could be wrong. It's booking it though because by 168 it's in around Columbus, GA in WC Georgia. By 174 it's almost to Chattanooga, TN still showing 977mb.

Here's near landfall Sarasota/Tampa 144 hours:
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 412&fh=144


Tampa would be toast if that played out. They missed Charles by a hundred plus miles or so. Not this run..

sorry it's charley not charles :P
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5836 Postby gatorcane » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:14 pm

CMC ensembles with a right shift:

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5837 Postby SouthDadeFish » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:15 pm

Looks like the 12Z EC is lifting the trough out a little faster than the 00Z through 90 hours. Irma is farther NW in this run.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5838 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:15 pm

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5839 Postby gatorcane » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:15 pm

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5840 Postby Steve » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:17 pm

SouthDade,

On the run to run comparison it looks a little SW and I mean just a little from the 00Z run at 96 hours.
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 0&ypos=300
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