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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5841 Postby Steve » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:17 pm

SouthDade,

On the run to run comparison it looks a little SW and I mean just a little from the 00Z run at 96 hours.
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 0&ypos=300
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5842 Postby gatorcane » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:17 pm

12Z ECMWF and GFS very similar at hour 96 with the ECMWF slightly west
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5843 Postby drezee » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:18 pm

Ridge is back in...going to FL on this run...no near miss
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5844 Postby sma10 » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:18 pm

Thru 96h all models reasonably clustered. Major difference CMC, GFS, EURO no Antilles interaction. UK slightly southern tendency huge implications if correct
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5845 Postby ronjon » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:18 pm

I don't like that 591 dm bridge high setting up over north florida on the EC run.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5846 Postby otowntiger » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:19 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:If there's any ray of hope, it's that Irma is forecast to move much much faster than Harvey. Heck, if you look at that CMC model loop, it looks like it only takes a day and 1/2 to go up the entire East Coast Seaboard. That's quick! Which means that wind as opposed to flooding would be the main issue

While that certainly is good from a catastrophic rainfall event, a fast moving cat 4/5 can bring devastating winds much further inland. In fact I've read a recent study done by NOAA regarding inland wind from hurricanes and the forward speed played a huge role in how far inland damaging winds came. So it's almost like a two edged sword except I will grant that a similar rainfall event as was produced by Harvey is far more catastrophic and widespread.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5847 Postby SouthDadeFish » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:19 pm

Steve wrote:SouthDade,

On the run to run comparison it looks a little SW and I mean just a little from the 00Z run at 96 hours.
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 0&ypos=300


That is comparing today's 12Z to yesterday's 12Z. That's why, I think.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5848 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:19 pm

Not liking these northward trends in the short term. Good news for the islands and Cuba, bad news for FL.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5849 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:23 pm

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5850 Postby gatorcane » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:23 pm

120 hours:

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5851 Postby ALhurricane » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:23 pm

The agreement between the GFS and ECMWF through Day 5 is fairly remarkable.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5852 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:25 pm

They have to be overdoing intensity that close to Cuba...
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5853 Postby gatorcane » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:25 pm

Slightly more ridging day 5 on 12Z Euro. This may be a direct South Florida hit when we see hour 144 frame
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5854 Postby ronjon » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:25 pm

Next frame on the Euro is critical. Does it turn north at 144 hrs?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5855 Postby sma10 » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:26 pm

Btw, So Florida will almost certainly be in the next 5 day cone i would think
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5856 Postby AutoPenalti » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:26 pm

ronjon wrote:Next frame on the Euro is critical. Does it turn north at 144 hrs?

I really hope you're right but this is heading N of due W.

This is a FL hit.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5857 Postby xironman » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:26 pm

North Carolina here we come.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5858 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:27 pm

CrazyTropics wrote:It appears we may see a sooner northern turn prior to FL and up the coadt to the carolinas as the Euro and some others now suggest. In fact the GFS is now hinting st a turn sooner, suttoe but happening. I think in the next fee runs we are going to see a right alignment again. Just my opinion for those of you who attack others

This run has more ridging. It's making the turn later. Not an attack but it's right in front of us.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5859 Postby gatorcane » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:27 pm

12Z JMA shifts some east:

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5860 Postby Frank P » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:27 pm

not sure it can miss FL at that position
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