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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#641 Postby Blown Away » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:15 pm

Sounds like sheared TS in GOM in the future... JMHO
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Models

#642 Postby slamdaddy » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:18 pm

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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#643 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:19 pm

It is now ( even more ) very clear the system in the florida straights has closed off ... so now the question is how much of an effect will it have on "Nate"
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#644 Postby Blown Away » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:25 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:It is now ( even more ) very clear the system in the florida straights has closed off ... so now the question is how much of an effect will it have on "Nate"


Seems NHC starting to back off the idea of a great environment in the GOM just a little...
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Models

#645 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:25 pm

NAM models flipped quite a bit stronger this run compared to the 18z run. Could it be the start of a trend? I surely hope not. :cry:
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Models

#646 Postby mph101 » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:26 pm

If this forms into Nate it will move east of the models. Its insane to not use logic regardless of the computer models man use your common sense and years of data. This storm is not a threat to the western range , continental fronts have already effected these areas to the west they are out of October hurricanes man, geeezzz. As Irma was to far west and speared east by the the trough which was easily seen Sat night and there was no way by Sunday AM that IRMA would skirt the gulf coast to Tampa. Man use your eyes and stop watching stupid computer models. This storm will move east towards Panama City or the Big Bend if it develops . stop watching the models and man use your eyes. Its October.
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#647 Postby NDG » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:29 pm

I had no idea the Island of San Andres has a radar, pretty good, better than the Cuban and Mexican radars.

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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Models

#648 Postby Alyono » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:33 pm

GFS DISSIPATES this over Central America while developing what would be Nate in the Gulf
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#649 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:34 pm

NDG wrote:I had no idea the Island of San Andres has a radar, pretty good, better than the Cuban and Mexican radars.


well dang neither did i.... nice location but seems random.. :)
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Models

#650 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:35 pm

assuming the system in the florida straights continues to organize we can disregard any model that does not show a closed system in the florida straights.... 06z and 12z runs will be interesting.
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Models

#651 Postby Alyono » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:35 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:assuming the system in the florida straights continues to organize we can disregard any model that does not show a closed system in the florida straights.... 06z and 12z runs will be interesting.


the Florida Straits system is not going to be a closed low
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Models

#652 Postby Alyono » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:36 pm

regenerates once it moves into the Gulf of Honduras
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Models

#653 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:41 pm

Alyono wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:assuming the system in the florida straights continues to organize we can disregard any model that does not show a closed system in the florida straights.... 06z and 12z runs will be interesting.


the Florida Straits system is not going to be a closed low


Very likely already is...will know in a few hours. all ( useful) indications are that it is..
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Models

#654 Postby slamdaddy » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:47 pm

Don't look like GFS is getting onboard with Nate much at all.
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Models

#655 Postby Alyono » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:49 pm

Uccellini, please go back to the old version of the GFS. This model is utter garbage
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Models

#656 Postby Alyono » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:50 pm

looking at some of the soundings on Levi's site, it appears there may be temperature inversions in the GFS.
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Models

#657 Postby slamdaddy » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:51 pm

Can we get a tax refund for bad product perhaps ?
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Models

#658 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:52 pm

Well at least in terms of the system in the straights the GFS is handling it decent.. the rest has so much feedback its a waste..
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Models

#659 Postby pcolaman » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:02 pm

Steve wrote:NAM 00Z moves close to the Mouth of the Mississippi then has a hit toward Jackson/Mobile Counties 980s on 12km. Then it moves ENE across Escambia County, FL where the run ends 84 hours or 7pm Sunday local time. This looks like a reasonable solution to me and is similar to the CMC and NAVGEM runs this morning.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 0&ypos=190


Looks like an Ivan run at the end. Only the latter approach to land that is.
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Models

#660 Postby Alyono » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:03 pm

Canadian says Nate will be the system by Florida

Waiting for the UKMET now to give a reasonable solution
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