ATL: FRANKLIN - Remnants - Discussion

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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#681 Postby Kazmit » Mon Aug 07, 2017 3:41 pm

New update shows a hurricane in the BOC instead...
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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#682 Postby Hammy » Mon Aug 07, 2017 3:43 pm

How similar is the upper environment and structure to Diana in 1990? It's looking like the track so far could be fairly similar.
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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#683 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 07, 2017 3:53 pm

Tropical Storm Franklin Discussion Number 5
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL072017
400 PM CDT Mon Aug 07 2017

Visible satellite imagery continues to show a fairly well-organized
tropical cyclone, although infrared images indicate some warming of
the convective cloud tops. Observations from an Air Force Hurricane
Hunter aircraft show that the storm has a fairly broad inner core,
which is consistent with the ragged eye-like feature noted on the
visible imagery. The current intensity is kept at 50 kt based on a
blend of SFMR and flight-level observations from the aircraft along
with sampling considerations. Franklin has a well-defined,
symmetric upper-level outflow pattern, and some strengthening is
still expected prior to landfall. Although the cyclone could be near
hurricane strength at landfall on the east coast of the Yucatan
peninsula, the broad inner core of the system would argue against
rapid intensification during the next 12 hours. Weakening will occur
due to the passage over the Yucatan peninsula, and restrengthening
over the very warm waters of the Bay of Campeche is forecast.
Although northerly shear could inhibit strengthening somewhat,
Franklin is predicted to become a hurricane before making
landfall in mainland Mexico. The official intensity forecast is
similar to the latest HFIP Corrected Consensus forecast.

Based on center fixes from the aircraft along with geostationary
and microwave imagery, the initial motion is northwestward or
310/11 kt. The track forecast reasoning remains basically
unchanged. A mid-level high pressure area near the northwestern
Gulf of Mexico coast should force Franklin to take a
west-northwestward to westward course for the next several days.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 07/2100Z 18.6N 85.9W 50 KT 60 MPH
12H 08/0600Z 19.1N 87.6W 60 KT 70 MPH...INLAND
24H 08/1800Z 19.9N 89.9W 40 KT 45 MPH...INLAND
36H 09/0600Z 20.3N 91.9W 50 KT 60 MPH...OVER WATER
48H 09/1800Z 20.5N 94.0W 65 KT 75 MPH...OVER WATER
72H 10/1800Z 20.5N 98.5W 55 KT 65 MPH...INLAND
96H 11/1800Z...DISSIPATED

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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#684 Postby weathaguyry » Mon Aug 07, 2017 3:57 pm

A more NW movement would mean less time over land
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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#685 Postby tropicwatch » Mon Aug 07, 2017 3:59 pm

Looking at the forecast cone, looks like it needs to start making that left turn 8-)

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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#686 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:02 pm

Well there are some higher winds..
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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#687 Postby Airboy » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:05 pm

Looks like it will be a H soon, winds getting stronger.
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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#688 Postby weathaguyry » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:05 pm

Wow, those are some pretty strong winds! :uarrow:
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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#689 Postby GCANE » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:06 pm

Going well north of forecast points

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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#690 Postby weathaguyry » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:08 pm

Wouldn't a more NW movement mean less time over land?
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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#691 Postby GCANE » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:08 pm

weathaguyry wrote:Wow, those are some pretty strong winds! :uarrow:


Didn't look like they were in any strong cell either.
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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#692 Postby GCANE » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:10 pm

GCANE wrote:
weathaguyry wrote:Wow, those are some pretty strong winds! :uarrow:


Didn't look like they were in any strong cell either.


55 knots SFMR
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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#693 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:12 pm

pressure also down a couple MB ..
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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#694 Postby tolakram » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:13 pm

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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#695 Postby GCANE » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:14 pm

Nice wall of towers firing off on the NE quad.
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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#696 Postby GCANE » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:28 pm

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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#697 Postby GCANE » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:33 pm

Core temp has increased 1C from the previous pass to the latest pass.
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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#698 Postby Dean4Storms » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:33 pm

Definitely a more NW motion for now, that could change as its core nears the coast causing it to turn more westward.
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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#699 Postby drezee » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:35 pm

drezee wrote:
drezee 8:26am EST wrote:Let me further explain. My guess is recon will find 999 pressure at 18z or so. Probably deepening at 1 mb per hour until 8pm then goes into RI or about 2 mb per hour for the next 8 hours before landfall. So worse case you have: 999mb - 6mb - 16mb ~ 977 mb worst case...in a case like this could be strong Cat 1


And recon has 999mb as I thought


3 hours of passes 3mb drop in pressure...like clockwork

The question will be will it get on shore in time. I still think RI starts at 0z...so far my call from 12z has been 100% on
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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#700 Postby BobHarlem » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:44 pm

Showing up pretty well on Belize radar now:
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Loop at http://flhurricane.com/imageanimator.php?258
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