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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#781 Postby HurricaneBrain » Mon Aug 21, 2017 2:21 pm

Latest Euro run disagrees with those percentages. :wink:
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HurricaneBrain wrote:If future Harvey can reach hurricane strength in the southern Gulf, and a trough is in place like some models are forecasting, that's when the central Gulf coast comes into play. Waters are warm...


no, it doesn't. The chance of this passing within 125 miles of the central Gulf coast is between 2 and 5 percent at the present time

furthermore, 6Z HWRF has a cat 3, and it shifted south into Tampico. Stronger storm does not necessarily mean a more northward storm
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#782 Postby Alyono » Mon Aug 21, 2017 2:46 pm

HurricaneBrain wrote:Latest Euro run disagrees with those percentages. :wink:
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HurricaneBrain wrote:If future Harvey can reach hurricane strength in the southern Gulf, and a trough is in place like some models are forecasting, that's when the central Gulf coast comes into play. Waters are warm...


no, it doesn't. The chance of this passing within 125 miles of the central Gulf coast is between 2 and 5 percent at the present time

furthermore, 6Z HWRF has a cat 3, and it shifted south into Tampico. Stronger storm does not necessarily mean a more northward storm


I will get the ensembles soon and then recalculate the probabilities
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#783 Postby HurricaneBrain » Mon Aug 21, 2017 2:50 pm

Cool, thanks Alyono.
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HurricaneBrain wrote:Latest Euro run disagrees with those percentages. :wink:
Alyono wrote:
no, it doesn't. The chance of this passing within 125 miles of the central Gulf coast is between 2 and 5 percent at the present time

furthermore, 6Z HWRF has a cat 3, and it shifted south into Tampico. Stronger storm does not necessarily mean a more northward storm


I will get the ensembles soon and then recalculate the probabilities
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#784 Postby Alyono » Mon Aug 21, 2017 2:50 pm

HurricaneBrain wrote:Cool, thanks Alyono.
Alyono wrote:
HurricaneBrain wrote:Latest Euro run disagrees with those percentages. :wink:


I will get the ensembles soon and then recalculate the probabilities


But no promises on the actual values. Clients tend to pay good money for those
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#785 Postby Frank P » Mon Aug 21, 2017 2:51 pm

Latest vis sat loops gives the impression that the overall cloud mass of ex Harvey is heading off to the NW... since there really is not a definable center this could have some impact as to where the center finally locates once it enters the Gulf or BOC.. which would certainly impact future model runs.. nothing is really that certain right now with the system except there is a strong possibility that copious amounts of rain most likely will impact some region of the US.. could be a very interesting week ahead..
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#786 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:28 pm

Harvey is sure catching my attention now that it is looking more and more like this will be a U.S. threat over the next 5-10 days. Texas folks better look over their hurricane plans just incase!
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#787 Postby Thetxhurricanemaster » Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:31 pm

Harvey looks to be developing a LLC
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#788 Postby Hammy » Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:42 pm

Thetxhurricanemaster wrote:Harvey looks to be developing a LLC


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Surface obs seem to verify this--winds on Honduran coast have been out of the SW or NW for awhile now. Still probably broad, so I'm not sure exactly where, but it appears the surface vorticity and upper high have finally aligned as well.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#789 Postby Nimbus » Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:43 pm

Thetxhurricanemaster wrote:Harvey looks to be developing a LLC


Not sure where you see that?

The convection gives the illusion that a center might spin up closer to Cozumel than Belize but that is just blob watching.

Any pressure or wind readings that support a LLC formation?
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#790 Postby Frank P » Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:47 pm

Nimbus wrote:
Thetxhurricanemaster wrote:Harvey looks to be developing a LLC


Not sure where you see that?

The convection gives the illusion that a center might spin up closer to Cozumel than Belize but that is just blob watching.

Any pressure or wind readings that support a LLC formation?

Looking at the sat loops you can't discern a llc... not with my eyes... not yet that is... :double:
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#791 Postby ROCK » Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:49 pm

oh its consolidating right now probably bc of land interaction. Will have to wait to remerge to see if he takes off.....water are hottest in the basin right now in the GOM...
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#792 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:52 pm

Vorticity isnt quite stacked, its also still a bit stretched out
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#793 Postby Thetxhurricanemaster » Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:53 pm

Hammy wrote:
Thetxhurricanemaster wrote:Harvey looks to be developing a LLC


Image

Surface obs seem to verify this--winds on Honduran coast have been out of the SW or NW for awhile now. Still probably broad, so I'm not sure exactly where, but it appears the surface vorticity and upper high have finally aligned as well.

Yeah some kind of lower level spin is definitely developing some NW and SW winds prove that
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#794 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:19 pm

@JimCantore
Starting to get that curvy look...
#harvey


 https://twitter.com/JimCantore/status/899742167928893441


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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#795 Postby ROCK » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:19 pm

I would also not rule out center relos after emerging into the GOM....seen it happen way to many times...TA and even SW LA is in play attm IMO....
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#796 Postby Thetxhurricanemaster » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:25 pm

ROCK wrote:I would also not rule out center relos after emerging into the GOM....seen it happen way to many times...TA and even SW LA is in play attm IMO....

Anywhere from Tampico to Corpus christi is in play Louisiana is not in play !
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#797 Postby Nimbus » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:26 pm

Is there somewhere better to get high resolution imagery other than the goes 16 at colostate.edu?
It would be easy to miss the circulation, off Cozumel hard to tell if that is mid level?
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#798 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:27 pm

Thetxhurricanemaster wrote:
Hammy wrote:
Thetxhurricanemaster wrote:Harvey looks to be developing a LLC


Image

Surface obs seem to verify this--winds on Honduran coast have been out of the SW or NW for awhile now. Still probably broad, so I'm not sure exactly where, but it appears the surface vorticity and upper high have finally aligned as well.

Yeah some kind of lower level spin is definitely developing some NW and SW winds prove that

If I had to guess I'd say around 19°N, 86°W.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#799 Postby Thetxhurricanemaster » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:29 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
Thetxhurricanemaster wrote:
Hammy wrote:
Image

Surface obs seem to verify this--winds on Honduran coast have been out of the SW or NW for awhile now. Still probably broad, so I'm not sure exactly where, but it appears the surface vorticity and upper high have finally aligned as well.

Yeah some kind of lower level spin is definitely developing some NW and SW winds prove that

If I had to guess I'd say around 19°N, 86°W.

Not at 19N that is more mid level
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#800 Postby gatorcane » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:29 pm

Wow this looks like a tremendous amount of moisture heading for the BOC/WGOM. Let's hope Harvey does not decide to stay more offshore in the WGOM and ramp up even more. Stay safe fellow Texans:

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