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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#821 Postby ROCK » Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:36 pm

need to see if we have buoys out there...does look like consolidation under that new convection....good eye
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#822 Postby floridasun78 » Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:37 pm

ex Harvey cloudy almost getting to key west how big it is
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#823 Postby Dean4Storms » Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:37 pm

Yep, TX and LA need to really monitor this, until a new center actually forms the models could be off a good bit spread out in time.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#824 Postby Frank P » Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:40 pm

floridasun78 wrote:ex Harvey cloudy almost getting to key west how big it is

It has been expanding all day.. very impressive TW cloud formation for sure...
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#825 Postby ROCK » Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:41 pm

Dean4Storms wrote:Yep, TX and LA need to really monitor this, until a new center actually forms the models could be off a good bit spread out in time.


totally agree...with a center forming further NW might bring Mid LA coast or all of LA for that matter...the trend is right attm...
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#826 Postby Dean4Storms » Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:41 pm

ROCK wrote:need to see if we have buoys out there...does look like consolidation under that new convection....good eye


You can also see the upper level high is just about centered right over it there where the circulation is growing and convection is repeatedly firing now. Not good, much further north in latitude than what I saw any models with, at least and globals.
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#827 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:42 pm

ROCK wrote:need to see if we have buoys out there...does look like consolidation under that new convection....good eye


Aric Dunn is licking his chops and will be with us shortly :D
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#828 Postby Wx_Warrior » Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:44 pm

Cantore: getting the "swirl look"
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#829 Postby Dean4Storms » Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:45 pm

I don't see definitive obs showing a surface low/circulation up there right now, but that could change tonight if this convection keeps going.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#830 Postby PTrackerLA » Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:58 pm

I'm starting to watch closely here in Louisiana. A "center" seems to be consolidating a lot further north than the models and I would have thought. Things are about to get very interesting around here.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#831 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:06 pm

It's looking increasingly likely Texas will face the threat of a hurricane landfall in 4-5 days. Almost 3 days over the Bay of Campeche is a long time in a low wind shear and moist environment.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#832 Postby SunnyThoughts » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:08 pm

PTrackerLA wrote:I'm starting to watch closely here in Louisiana. A "center" seems to be consolidating a lot further north than the models and I would have thought. Things are about to get very interesting around here.


I also agree about the "center" perhaps forming farther North than expected, which also means that he won't have as long over the Yucatan as would be the case if the center were farther South. Everyone take care and be prepared. Better to be ready and have the storm miss you, than the alternative.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#833 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:13 pm

TropicalAnalystwx13 wrote:It's looking increasingly likely Texas will face the threat of a hurricane landfall in 4-5 days. Almost 3 days over the Bay of Campeche is a long time in a low wind shear and moist environment.


Yeah I'm not understanding why the models are keeping it weak. Even the EPS members keep it a relatively weak.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#834 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:13 pm

TropicalAnalystwx13 wrote:It's looking increasingly likely Texas will face the threat of a hurricane landfall in 4-5 days. Almost 3 days over the Bay of Campeche is a long time in a low wind shear and moist environment.

Would be the first legit hurricane threat since Ike (2008) for Texas.
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#835 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:15 pm

Kingarabian wrote:
TropicalAnalystwx13 wrote:It's looking increasingly likely Texas will face the threat of a hurricane landfall in 4-5 days. Almost 3 days over the Bay of Campeche is a long time in a low wind shear and moist environment.


Yeah I'm not understanding why the models are keeping it weak. Even the EPS members keep it a relatively weak.

Yeah the GoM's warm waters is rocket fuel alone but add low wind shear and a good moist environment and BOOM!
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#836 Postby Tireman4 » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:15 pm

:uarrow:

Speaking from someone who went through Ike. it can stay away too...
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#837 Postby GalvestonWXGeek » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:18 pm

Tireman4 wrote::uarrow:

Speaking from someone who went through Ike. it can stay away too...


Ditto.....
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#838 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:21 pm

Kingarabian wrote:
TropicalAnalystwx13 wrote:It's looking increasingly likely Texas will face the threat of a hurricane landfall in 4-5 days. Almost 3 days over the Bay of Campeche is a long time in a low wind shear and moist environment.


Yeah I'm not understanding why the models are keeping it weak. Even the EPS members keep it a relatively weak.

Models have forever underestimated storms in the Bay of Campeche. That we have consensus for a strong tropical storm/hurricane already (sub-980 Euro/GFS; Cat 3 HWRF; Cat 2 HMON; Cat 1 SHIPS) is a strong enough signal. Even Bret, which exploded to a Category 4 off Texas in 1999, was only forecast by the NHC and computer models to be a moderate tropical storm (obviously not saying we're going to repeat that here).
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#839 Postby TexWx » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:22 pm

GalvestonWXGeek wrote:
Tireman4 wrote::uarrow:

Speaking from someone who went through Ike. it can stay away too...


Ditto.....


Double Ditto
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#840 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:30 pm

A large area of disturbed weather over the northwestern Caribbean
Sea is associated with the remnants of Harvey. Satellite images
and surface observations indicate that the system lacks a
well-defined circulation and surface pressures are not falling at
this time. Although this system could still become better organized
while approaching the Yucatan peninsula tonight and early Tuesday,
tropical cyclone formation is not expected until the disturbance
moves into the Bay of Campeche on Wednesday where conditions are
favorable. Regardless of development, locally heavy rainfall and
gusty winds are likely to spread westward primarily across Belize
and the Yucatan Peninsula during the next couple of days.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...high...70 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...high...90 percent.
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