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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#8241 Postby SouthFLTropics » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:17 pm

HMON wants to destroy South Florida. Is there any reason why this model is so much higher in intensity than say the HWRF???

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#8242 Postby RL3AO » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:18 pm

SouthFLTropics wrote:HMON wants to destroy South Florida. Is there any reason why this model is so much higher in intensity than say the HWRF???


No ocean coupling.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#8243 Postby AdamFirst » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:19 pm

Hybridstorm_November2001 wrote:I'll say this much. Given the current trend of the models, if I were anywhere from the Carolinas to Long Island I would be watching Irma very closely until, at least, this weekend.


What trends? Which of the main models has this going beyond the Outer Banks?

I'd be very concerned in coastal Georgia & the Carolinas, for sure though...
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#8244 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:19 pm

Good question, I know very little about the HMON (mainly because it is so new). Maybe a Pro Met on here could answer that question?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#8245 Postby Emmett_Brown » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:19 pm

I just saw on another site that the 12z GEFS has shifted W back over FL.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#8246 Postby SouthFLTropics » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:20 pm

The HMON run is brutal for SE Florida

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#8247 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:21 pm

AdamFirst wrote:
Hybridstorm_November2001 wrote:I'll say this much. Given the current trend of the models, if I were anywhere from the Carolinas to Long Island I would be watching Irma very closely until, at least, this weekend.


What trends? Which of the main models has this going beyond the Outer Banks?

I'd be very concerned in coastal Georgia & the Carolinas, for sure though...


The general eastward trend in the models since last night. Granted, that trend may reverse given time.

Many of the ensembles do -

http://www.weathernerds.org/tc_guidance ... ng?8695221

http://www.weathernerds.org/tc_guidance ... g?98796551
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#8248 Postby SouthFLTropics » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:21 pm

HWRF south of Andros Island

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#8249 Postby SouthFLTropics » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:22 pm

Hybridstorm_November2001 wrote:
AdamFirst wrote:
Hybridstorm_November2001 wrote:I'll say this much. Given the current trend of the models, if I were anywhere from the Carolinas to Long Island I would be watching Irma very closely until, at least, this weekend.


What trends? Which of the main models has this going beyond the Outer Banks?

I'd be very concerned in coastal Georgia & the Carolinas, for sure though...


The general eastward trend in the models since last night. Granted, that trend may reverse given time.

Many of the ensembles do -

http://www.weathernerds.org/tc_guidance ... ng?8695221

http://www.weathernerds.org/tc_guidance ... g?98796551


With all due respect, the eastward trend has halted with the 12z runs we are currently seeing. We anxiously await the 12z Euro which starts in about 30 minutes.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#8250 Postby SouthFLTropics » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:23 pm

HWRF is going to make impact with South Florida upon turning...It would take a miracle to miss it.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#8251 Postby caneseddy » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:24 pm

SouthFLTropics wrote:HWRF south of Andros Island

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This is where the two prior runs of the HWRF had the turn north...let's see what happens.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#8252 Postby chris_fit » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:25 pm

Trend at 81 hours....

decent ways further W than 6z

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#8253 Postby SouthFLTropics » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:28 pm

HWRF between Andros Island and the Keys...Looks to be making the turn NW. I see no possible way it avoids impact with the mainland.

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#8254 Postby Evil Jeremy » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:29 pm

What is the HMON model? This is the first storm I'm seeing it. Is it reliable?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#8255 Postby chris_fit » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:29 pm

Closer to SE FL this time...

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#8256 Postby Palmcitycane » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:29 pm

I'm curios how long does it take for the HWRF to do its complete run? It seems like some of the Models run fairly quickly and the images get shared, than some of the others are a little slower. Maybe it's just my nerves and impatience at this point. Thanks again for all the info being shared.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#8257 Postby SouthFLTropics » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:30 pm

Also, notice the pressure drop and windspeed increase on the HWRF as it starts to make the turn. Not sure what's causing that but it could be due to the Gulf Stream waters.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#8258 Postby caneseddy » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:30 pm

GFS ensembles shifted back west now over the Peninsula with the mean landfalling in Miami and taking the I-95 route north
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#8259 Postby RL3AO » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:31 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:What is the HMON model? This is the first storm I'm seeing it. Is it reliable?


It's new. It replaced the GFDL.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#8260 Postby Evil Jeremy » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:31 pm

Palmcitycane wrote:I'm curios how long does it take for the HWRF to do its complete run? It seems like some of the Models run fairly quickly and the images get shared, than some of the others are a little slower. Maybe it's just my nerves and impatience at this point. Thanks again for all the info being shared.


Every model takes about 30-60 minutes to run, depending on how far out it extends. HWRF only goes through 5 days, so it's over faster. the Global models go out for weeks, and take around an hour, or a bit more, to finish. UKMET releases all their data at once.
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