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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#9061 Postby Kat5 » Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:15 am

This storm hasn't given a hint of a northward path. If you live inDestin,FL and east to Tampa, you are likely in its path. Be alert as there isn't any evidence of a turn yet on the steering map and this continues west shift by the models will continue until landfall.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#9062 Postby tronbunny » Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:17 am

Aric Dunn wrote:
ALhurricane wrote:Given satellite trends, Euro is going to be a little too far west I think.

agreed. its too fast first of all.

I cannot see the shortwave having any real effect. It's almost as if the eastern ridge is building back west.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#9063 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:18 am

Kat5 wrote:This storm hasn't given a hint of a northward path. If you live inDestin,FL and east to Tampa, you are likely in its path. Be alert as there isn't any evidence of a turn yet on the steering map and this continues west shift by the models will continue until landfall.


what do you mean ?

you mean this weakness ?

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#9064 Postby Kat5 » Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:22 am

Aric Dunn wrote:
Kat5 wrote:This storm hasn't given a hint of a northward path. If you live inDestin,FL and east to Tampa, you are likely in its path. Be alert as there isn't any evidence of a turn yet on the steering map and this continues west shift by the models will continue until landfall.


what do you mean ?

you mean this weakness ?

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Well based on that map, we would had seen a slowdown and more noticeable northward movement. It's neither one is happening.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#9065 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:23 am

tronbunny wrote:
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ALhurricane wrote:Given satellite trends, Euro is going to be a little too far west I think.

agreed. its too fast first of all.

I cannot see the shortwave having any real effect. It's almost as if the eastern ridge is building back west.


I can tell looking at water vapor and other various things the two shortwaves do seem to be moving a little to slow.. but we will see.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#9066 Postby rickybobby » Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:25 am

Don't know if it has anything to do with the hurricane but it's raining in Daytona and gusts of wind for the past 15 minutes.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#9067 Postby mph101 » Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:26 am

I don't know what you guys are looking at. This ragged old sea hag looks like her stumble and near stall out in northern Cuba with dry air intrusion is going to finally kill this beast off. This is the best I've seen this storm in a week. Don't get me wrong I think earlier tonight Irma was impressive, but after the hook into Cuba the storm looks ragged and old, like a dead shrimp. I would be surprised to see this storm recover based on the Gulf Water Vapor satellite I am looking at. Time to wind down and all the 78 dewpoint- 35 C water in the world can't allow her to escape whats a tad N/NW of Tampa. Going to bed but it wouldn't shock me if the old storm is pushed east/NE out and under Florida to fish land
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#9068 Postby Evil Jeremy » Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:26 am

Kat5 wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
Kat5 wrote:This storm hasn't given a hint of a northward path. If you live inDestin,FL and east to Tampa, you are likely in its path. Be alert as there isn't any evidence of a turn yet on the steering map and this continues west shift by the models will continue until landfall.


what do you mean ?

you mean this weakness ?

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/a ... g8dlm5.GIF


Well based on that map, we would had seen a slowdown and more noticeable northward movement. It's neither one is happening.


Actually, both have been observed since roughly 10pm.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#9069 Postby Airboy » Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:27 am

Looks to me it's moving in the track like the models have said it would move but a bit slower I think.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#9070 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:28 am

znel52 wrote:https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/03115325fa7ec12df19573ef2237e9aa16a33ff8f5ca2a6fc2b4f168b445123a.gif

Storm is definitely going north of due west. Gaining latitude blatantly obvious in this radar loop.

Here is what the latest forecast says about Hurricane Irma’s predicted path:

Irma is moving toward the west near 12mph (19kph).
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#9071 Postby bluespiderfl » Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:29 am

so latest model looks like it almost pulls Brevard county out of the cone... I feel terrible for all the east coast folks that evacuated to the center and west coast, they are now directly in the path...
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#9072 Postby Kat5 » Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:30 am

Evil Jeremy wrote:
Kat5 wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
what do you mean ?

you mean this weakness ?

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/a ... g8dlm5.GIF




Well based on that map, we would had seen a slowdown and more noticeable northward movement. It's neither one is happening.


Actually, both have been observed since roughly 10pm.


NHC says W at 12. Not sure what you are looking at.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#9073 Postby Patricia » Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:32 am

bluespiderfl wrote:so latest model looks like it almost pulls Brevard county out of the cone... I feel terrible for all the east coast folks that evacuated to the center and west coast, they are now directly in the path...


Right! What a nightmare for everyone trying to do what they thought was best by evacuating central and west. This is a mess!
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#9074 Postby Patricia » Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:33 am

I meant evacuating to the central or west
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#9075 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:33 am

Kat5 wrote:
Evil Jeremy wrote:
Kat5 wrote:


Well based on that map, we would had seen a slowdown and more noticeable northward movement. It's neither one is happening.


Actually, both have been observed since roughly 10pm.


NHC says W at 12. Not sure what you are looking at.


NHC DOES A LONG TERM AVERAGE FOR MOTION... SO far this has been a short term motion..
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#9076 Postby Evil Jeremy » Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:34 am

Kat5 wrote:
Evil Jeremy wrote:
Kat5 wrote:


Well based on that map, we would had seen a slowdown and more noticeable northward movement. It's neither one is happening.


Actually, both have been observed since roughly 10pm.


NHC says W at 12. Not sure what you are looking at.


This: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/03 ... 45123a.gif

And This: https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/recon/r ... A-IRMA.png
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#9077 Postby txwatcher91 » Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:39 am

mph101 wrote:I don't know what you guys are looking at. This ragged old sea hag looks like her stumble and near stall out in northern Cuba with dry air intrusion is going to finally kill this beast off. This is the best I've seen this storm in a week. Don't get me wrong I think earlier tonight Irma was impressive, but after the hook into Cuba the storm looks ragged and old, like a dead shrimp. I would be surprised to see this storm recover based on the Gulf Water Vapor satellite I am looking at. Time to wind down and all the 78 dewpoint- 35 C water in the world can't allow her to escape whats a tad N/NW of Tampa. Going to bed but it wouldn't shock me if the old storm is pushed east/NE out and under Florida to fish land


There is nothing that pushes this away from Florida and into fish land. No model or data even remotely indicates this. Furthermore, all the models are hinting at explosive intensification as this clears the Cuban coast. It may be a little ragged right now but it won’t be once it hits those open waters, it will recover quickly.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#9078 Postby Kat5 » Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:40 am

Evil Jeremy wrote:
Kat5 wrote:
Evil Jeremy wrote:
Actually, both have been observed since roughly 10pm.


NHC says W at 12. Not sure what you are looking at.


This: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/03 ... 45123a.gif

And This: https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/recon/r ... A-IRMA.png


I'll wait for another center pass, might be just a wobble. The WV shows nothing significant to draw her North at this given time. That western edge of the high has really been underestimated.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#9079 Postby brghteys1216 » Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:43 am

Is it possible the ridge could erode out quicker like the GFS?

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#9080 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:50 am

could see a little up tick in the convection as IRMA approaches that little notch in the cuban coast. it should but the southern eyewal brieftly back over water. if it actually has an effect .. who knows
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