ATL: MICHAEL - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2241 Postby GCANE » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:45 pm

Unusual number of lightning strikes on the eyewall

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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2242 Postby tolakram » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:45 pm

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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2243 Postby meriland29 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:47 pm

It does look like the S side is warming up and losing convection a bit...for now. I am sure that is very temporary.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2244 Postby OverlandHurricane » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:47 pm

DestinHurricane wrote:This is making me think I should have evaluated


Dude. Get out of there. NOW.

More importantly, at some point in the not-so-distant future, all the escape routes out of there will be under water. Don't wait around for that.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2245 Postby StormPyrate » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:47 pm

tolakram wrote:
dhweather wrote:
StormPyrate wrote:South side seems to be dying down, shear or dry air?


It's not dry air, I just checked. Has to be shear.


Here is one theory. Click link to see 'thread".

https://twitter.com/pppapin/status/1049814078560956416

Cant reach it, but interesting
So what would weaken the convection coming in?
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2246 Postby SunnyThoughts » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:48 pm

HWRF model simulation at landfall....No words

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 00918&fh=6
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2247 Postby meriland29 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:49 pm

SunnyThoughts wrote:HWRF model simulation at landfall....No words

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 00918&fh=6


Jesus..
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2248 Postby tolakram » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:49 pm

StormPyrate wrote:
tolakram wrote:
dhweather wrote:
It's not dry air, I just checked. Has to be shear.


Here is one theory. Click link to see 'thread".

https://twitter.com/pppapin/status/1049814078560956416

Cant reach it, but interesting
So what would weaken the convection coming in?


Drops from an earlier mission revealed dry air on the west side of the storm, while all other quadrants super moist.

Why is this still happening? An earlier G-IV flew & sampled the near-core env. of #Michael. Most of the profiles are moist, with the exception of dropsondes #24 & #25 which have a classic dry air import signal.

This is the likely culprit for why the SW eyewall remains open.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2249 Postby gatorcane » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:49 pm

SunnyThoughts wrote:HWRF model simulation at landfall....No words

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 00918&fh=6


Wow

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Re: RE: Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2250 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:49 pm

Ri doesnt go on for days, bottom line is cat 4 at landfall is probable..big win for hwrf and euro for intensity.. euro was too slow so that's a loss, gfs nailed timing....big wind big surge, daytime landfall so anyone doubting the power of surge will see it tomorrow
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PavelGaborik10 wrote:
What are you talking about? This storm IS exploding, and has been for quite some time.


The way the south side of Michael looks, I doubt winds are Cat 4 criteria.


I didn't say they were, but this storm has been undergoing RI for days now. It's a mere 5 MPH away from being a category 4 at this time.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2251 Postby eastcoastFL » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:50 pm

Is the western side flattening? IF so is that due to the trough pushing it or shear?
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2252 Postby tolakram » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:51 pm

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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2253 Postby smithtim » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:52 pm

Michele B wrote:
baygirl_1 wrote:
DestinHurricane wrote:This is making me think I should have evaluated

There’s still time to leave and there are hotel rooms still available in Pensacola & Mobile. Be safe!


Yes! Go west. Most people drive north and keep driving north....then lots of folks are stranded on the roads. Get on 10 and GO WEST!

I believe you don 't have to go too far....just get OFF the beach and at least 20-40 miles inland - and on the west side of the storm.


Well spoken on both posts... I know that area ( did UG at UWF ) and have much experience driving in and out of storms due to both chasing & relief work and agree 100% y'all still have a few hours before weather deteriorates! And westbound there will be rooms in mobile or coastal Mississippi if Pensacola fills up or gets expensive.

But but but DO NOT EXPECT THERE TO BE ANY SERVICES GAS etc for a little while. If you have less than quater to half tank you run risk getting stuck traffic run outta gas. To find gas the gasbuddy site or app has a very good function to tell gas stations which have gas vs out of gas or no power etc. Governor Scott was plugging it a lot last year during that massive Irma evacuation. I found it very useful in my travels to aide in recent recovery mission Florence in eastern NC.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2254 Postby cycloneye » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:53 pm

Impressive view from the International Space Station.

 https://twitter.com/WorldAndScience/status/1049837029801033734


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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2255 Postby GCANE » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:53 pm

Looks like a legit eye now.
Outflow channel is getting better connected with the ULL over the east tip of Cuba.
Last stop before landfall is the hot pool of water along the bend.
May make it to Cat 4.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2256 Postby meriland29 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:55 pm

My phone is being wonky. Is recon coming in with more?
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2257 Postby Taylormae » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:56 pm

Water is up to Bamboo Willies on Pcola Beach.
For those not familiar it’s a bar on the boardwalk at Pensacola, Beach FL on the sound side.
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2258 Postby PavelGaborik10 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:56 pm

jlauderdal wrote:Ri doesnt go on for days, bottom line is cat 4 at landfall is probable..big win for hwrf and euro for intensity.. euro was too slow so that's a loss, gfs nailed timing....big wind big surge, daytime landfall so anyone doubting the power of surge will see it tomorrow
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The way the south side of Michael looks, I doubt winds are Cat 4 criteria.


I didn't say they were, but this storm has been undergoing RI for days now. It's a mere 5 MPH away from being a category 4 at this time.


This storm has gone from a TD, or a category 3 in what, 48 hours...less? It may not have been RI'ing throughout the entire time period, but it damn sure was through the majority.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2259 Postby srainhoutx » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:57 pm

Bay County officials were begging for help from the National Media to get word out this afternoon for people to evacuate. I hope and pray those 100K folks did heed the warnings to get out!
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2260 Postby PavelGaborik10 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:58 pm

GCANE wrote:Unusual number of lightning strikes on the eyewall

http://i65.tinypic.com/24gjf9x.gif


A sign of further intensification.
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