ATL: MICHAEL - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2661 Postby johngaltfla » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:35 am

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hurricaneCW wrote:So I guess a lot of people have decided to ride this one out from all the articles I've read.

I think that's due to a combination of media backlash after the Florence hype and ironically a lack of coverage on Michael. The results may unfortunately be devastating.

Only about 10-12 hrs till landfall now.


This is basically coming in at a similar level to Charley. As you say I think the factors you mentioned plus the fact this area has had nothing even close to this for generations is leading unfortunately to complancy.


I feel so bad for those folks. The Charley lesson was a hard one for those who stayed. I met one of my customers who was in his early 30's after the storm and he had gray hair from it where he didn't before. I would never try to ride a 3+ out, ever.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2662 Postby tolakram » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:36 am

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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2663 Postby xironman » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:37 am

hurricaneCW wrote:So I guess a lot of people have decided to ride this one out from all the articles I've read.

I think that's due to a combination of media backlash after the Florence hype and ironically a lack of coverage on Michael. The results may unfortunately be devastating.

Only about 10-12 hrs till landfall now.


Well, for Florence if you include the deaths from the flooding I think it was 51, so hype could be a stretch.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2664 Postby USTropics » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:37 am

Eyewall is officially closed now:

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URNT12 KNHC 100919
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE AL142018
A. 10/09:04:10Z
B. 28.44 deg N 086.50 deg W
C. 700 mb 2585 m
D. 940 mb
E. 150 deg 33 kt
F. CLOSED
G. C20
H. 108 kt
I. 113 deg 12 nm 09:00:30Z
J. 200 deg 130 kt
K. 115 deg 14 nm 09:00:00Z
L. 106 kt
M. 305 deg 7 nm 09:06:30Z
N. 016 deg 94 kt
O. 305 deg 7 nm 09:06:30Z
P. 12 C / 3048 m
Q. 19 C / 3046 m
R. 10 C / NA
S. 12345 / 7
T. 0.02 / 1 nm
U. AF306 1314A MICHAEL OB 16
MAX FL WIND 130 KT 115 / 14 NM 09:00:00Z

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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2665 Postby Clearcloudz » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:37 am

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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2666 Postby Clearcloudz » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:39 am

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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2667 Postby USTropics » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:40 am

I believe that was the last pass for AF306 Mission #13. NOAA2 Mission #14 is already back in action though, getting ready for its first pass over the center:

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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2668 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:40 am

xironman wrote:
hurricaneCW wrote:So I guess a lot of people have decided to ride this one out from all the articles I've read.

I think that's due to a combination of media backlash after the Florence hype and ironically a lack of coverage on Michael. The results may unfortunately be devastating.

Only about 10-12 hrs till landfall now.


Well, for Florence if you include the deaths from the flooding I think it was 51, so hype could be a stretch.

It also doesn’t help when you have a certain someone on Twitter downplaying this big time!
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2669 Postby cjrciadt » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:42 am

N to S Center approach!?!! :double: :eek:
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2670 Postby GCANE » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:45 am

Entraining 3500 CAPE air from his SE.
Basically no Convective Inhibition on the Coast.
Hot pool of water ahead.

Worst-case scenario unfortunately for further intensification

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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2671 Postby GCANE » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:47 am

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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2672 Postby xironman » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:47 am

TheStormExpert wrote:
xironman wrote:
hurricaneCW wrote:So I guess a lot of people have decided to ride this one out from all the articles I've read.

I think that's due to a combination of media backlash after the Florence hype and ironically a lack of coverage on Michael. The results may unfortunately be devastating.

Only about 10-12 hrs till landfall now.


Well, for Florence if you include the deaths from the flooding I think it was 51, so hype could be a stretch.

It also doesn’t help when you have a certain someone on Twitter downplaying this big time!


Really who could be that stupid? No wonder I am not on Twitter. With a strengthening cat 4 if there vortices in the eyewall they can complete wipe out wooden structures. A rare occasion where the wind is almost a dangerous as the water.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2673 Postby USTropics » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:47 am

Looks like AF306 Mission #13 is now heading for another pass, so 2 passes coming up back to back:

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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2674 Postby deltadog03 » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:47 am

GCANE wrote:Entraining 3500 CAPE air from his SE.
Basically no Convective Inhibition on the Coast.
Hot pool of water ahead.

Worst-case scenario unfortunately for further intensification

http://i63.tinypic.com/2wcqmf6.png

That's a bit scary
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2675 Postby KWT » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:49 am

cjrciadt wrote:N to S Center approach!?!! :double: :eek:


Yep let's see what the pressure is doing...

Still bursting decently on the Eastern section of the eyewall, think it's going to keep that pattern till the end now.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2676 Postby GCANE » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:49 am

Quick look of recon flying at 700mb.
Eye dewpoint is maintain approx 15C.
No sign of an EWRC starting.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2677 Postby xironman » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:53 am

30 ft wave heights offshore https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page. ... tion=42039 there is going to be some big surf hitting PBC
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2678 Postby cjrciadt » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:56 am

Last two Cat 4+ imapcts in FL were also peaking at landfall Charley/Andrew :double: :double:
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2679 Postby AdamFirst » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:59 am

Eye is visible on the Eglin AFB radar.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

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