ATL: MICHAEL - Post-Tropical - Discussion

[rhwxgeek]

Question. Do they normally issue extreme wind warnings along with hurricane warnings? I don't remember ever seeing that before, and I thought they just issued hurricane warnings for landfalls. The only extreme wind warnings I've seen before were for non-tropical systems.

They were developed post-Katrina. The NWS was issuing tornado warnings for high wind, they are extremely rare and used with landfalling hurricanes when winds expected are greater than 115 MPH. They were used with Matthew, Harvey, Irma, Maria and now Michael.

[Texas Snowman]

@MikeWDross — Extensive damage in Panama City, FL.

[xironman]

Looks like a meso is about to swing in from the south to Mexico beach.

[GCANE]

Land hardly putting a dent in it

[supercane4867]

 https://twitter.com/JackSillin/status/1050083863878352896

[AnnularCane]

Question. Do they normally issue extreme wind warnings along with hurricane warnings? I don't remember ever seeing that before, and I thought they just issued hurricane warnings for landfalls. The only extreme wind warnings I've seen before were for non-tropical systems.

They were developed post-Katrina. The NWS was issuing tornado warnings for high wind, they are extremely rare and used with landfalling hurricanes when winds expected are greater than 115 MPH. They were used with Matthew, Harvey, Irma, Maria and now Michael.

Oh, then I guess apparently they did do it before. I just didn't remember seeing it.

[hurricaneCW]

Panama City is getting raked by that Western eyewall, Michael remains very well intact, there's still -80 cloud tops being generated offshore.

[KWT]

Still going to have very high winds in that eyewall in S.Georgia looking at the way it's currently holding it's presentation. Strengthening canes always seem to hold longer.

[StruThiO]

There's your post landfall -80c burst... what.

[galaxy401]

Georgia is going to be in a nasty surprise.

[GCANE]

 https://twitter.com/RyanMaue/status/1050083277640478720

[otowntiger]

Land hardly putting a dent in it

omg! you are right! I have NEVER sesen a storm do that! It is now entirely over land and doesn't look like it has dimenished one bit. Ho.lee.cow!!! I know that it could not have possiblly strengthened, but the sattellite image makes it look like it has over land, lol!

[GCANE]

 https://twitter.com/ExtremeStorms/status/1050085694671114240

[SeaBrz_FL]

Pray for Brett Adair!!!!

Who was the guy on the cell phone that told him to go back to Mexico Beach from Port ST. Joe?

I've been watching Adair the whole morning.

I knew that was a grave error and shouted at the screen...NO!

It was unbelievable how quickly that surge came in.

This should be required viewing for all those who say they are gonna

"ride it out"

I'm sick to my stomach.

Praying for Adair and his friend.

I know this topic has gone on for pages, but since I posted the original link here hours ago (and listened to the end), maybe this will answer the questions and end it.

1. Brett is part of the Live Storm Chasing Team and they had chaser trucks stretched from PCB to Pt St Joe.
2. Brett was the furthest east in PSJ, but the coordinator asked him to come up to Mex Beach. You could tell he wasn't sure about and asked a few questions about conditions especially surge.
3. They finally agreed to head to MB, but stopped to check out conditions in a neighborhood halfway.
4. The coordinator called again and sounded a bit upset because they weren't at MB yet.
5. They weren't in MB for more than 10 minutes before the surge started. His partner (passenger) panicked and opened the door to jump out. Brett yelled at him not to go and told him "worst thing you can do", but he went anyway.
6. Never did hear Brett actually leave the truck, but assume he did since there was no human sound inside the truck after that.
7. I am quite sure the footage is in a data cloud somewhere.

Hoping for the best.

[jdjaguar]

Whether it was a 4 or 5 at landfall is academic and we will go through data in the offseason. But it's splitting hairs...either way, it will be horrific.

No doubt. I would expect that Mexico Beach is leveled along with Tyndal AFB. And Panama City is likely suffering severe damage.

Adair is holed up in a house on Mexico Beach

[PTPatrick]

Re surge: looks like Apalachicola station went tits up at 9 feet. Can’t get it load now...guess we will have to wait until ground reports.

[ktulu909]

Pray for Brett Adair!!!!

Who was the guy on the cell phone that told him to go back to Mexico Beach from Port ST. Joe?

I've been watching Adair the whole morning.

I knew that was a grave error and shouted at the screen...NO!

It was unbelievable how quickly that surge came in.

This should be required viewing for all those who say they are gonna

"ride it out"

I'm sick to my stomach.

Praying for Adair and his friend.

I know this topic has gone on for pages, but since I posted the original link here hours ago (and listened to the end), maybe this will answer the questions and end it.

1. Brett is part of the Live Storm Chasing Team and they had chaser trucks stretched from PCB to Pt St Joe.
2. Brett was the furthest east in PSJ, but the coordinator asked him to come up to Mex Beach. You could tell he wasn't sure about and asked a few questions about conditions especially surge.
3. They finally agreed to head to MB, but stopped to check out conditions in a neighborhood halfway.
4. The coordinator called again and sounded a bit upset because they weren't at MB yet.
5. They weren't in MB for more than 10 minutes before the surge started. His partner (passenger) panicked and opened the door to jump out. Brett yelled at him not to go and told him "worst thing you can do", but he went anyway.
6. Never did hear Brett actually leave the truck, but assume he did since there was no human sound inside the truck after that.
7. I am quite sure the footage is in a data cloud somewhere.

Hoping for the best.

The footage is right here.
https://www.facebook.com/foxsanantonio/ ... 649794753/

[newtotex]

Question. Do they normally issue extreme wind warnings along with hurricane warnings? I don't remember ever seeing that before, and I thought they just issued hurricane warnings for landfalls. The only extreme wind warnings I've seen before were for non-tropical systems.

If I remember right, this is a a relatively new deal. I was in high school when Ivan came through Bama and I vaguely remember them issuing a blanket tornado warning when landfall came around

[tolakram]

I know this topic has gone on for pages, but since I posted the original link here hours ago (and listened to the end), maybe this will answer the questions and end it.

1. Brett is part of the Live Storm Chasing Team and they had chaser trucks stretched from PCB to Pt St Joe.
2. Brett was the furthest east in PSJ, but the coordinator asked him to come up to Mex Beach. You could tell he wasn't sure about and asked a few questions about conditions especially surge.
3. They finally agreed to head to MB, but stopped to check out conditions in a neighborhood halfway.
4. The coordinator called again and sounded a bit upset because they weren't at MB yet.
5. They weren't in MB for more than 10 minutes before the surge started. His partner (passenger) panicked and opened the door to jump out. Brett yelled at him not to go and told him "worst thing you can do", but he went anyway.
6. Never did hear Brett actually leave the truck, but assume he did since there was no human sound inside the truck after that.
7. I am quite sure the footage is in a data cloud somewhere.

Hoping for the best.

Sheesh. That coordinator needs ... something.

[supercane4867]

Last VDM at landfall marked the 138kt SFMR reading


URNT12 KNHC 101751
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE AL142018
A. 10/17:09:50Z
B. 29.97 deg N 085.64 deg W
C. 700 mb 2402 m
D. EXTRAP 922 mb
E. NA
F. CLOSED
G. C18
H. 138 kt
I. 186 deg 12 nm 17:06:00Z
J. 287 deg 129 kt
K. 187 deg 9 nm 17:07:00Z
L. 133 kt
M. 117 deg 15 nm 17:23:30Z
N. 224 deg 152 kt
O. 117 deg 12 nm 17:22:30Z
P. 14 C / 2962 m
Q. 19 C / 3048 m
R. 10 C / NA
S. 12345 / 7
T. 0.02 / 1 nm
U. AF301 1514A MICHAEL OB 22
MAX FL WIND 152 KT 117 / 12 NM 17:22:30Z
SLP EXTRAP FROM 700 MB