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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#141 Postby wxman57 » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:31 am

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wxman57 wrote:Not a TD. Weak, elongated low pressure area. No organized convection. However, I do think that this will become Dorian as it tracks offshore of the Carolinas this weekend then heads out to sea like Chantal. I don't see any Gulf threat. Most of the rain should stay east of Florida.

http://wxman57.com/images/98La.JPG


Hey 57 so this models are incorrect? Most track 98L across the state.

https://i.imgur.com/fy4BXmd.png


The weak low is already well east of where the models had it for 15Z. Ignore the models starting with TA or C. The UKMET model (dark blue) looks good. Consensus model (starting with TV) is skewed left because the GFS takes it into the Gulf, which doesn't appear likely. Most convection should stay on the east side of the low. I think the center will skirt the coast of Florida over the next 24 hours then turn northeastward. TD/TS on Sunday, well east of the SC coast. May impact Nova Scotia or Newfoundland next week.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#142 Postby psyclone » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:42 am

The folks at the WPC agree with WXman as they keep the majority of the QPF the next few days up and down the spine of the peninsula (consistent with diurnal convection) and heavier rains east of the state with what is (likely soon to be Dorian). This is really a reminder that the basin is finally awakening as it tends to do in latter August.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#143 Postby GCANE » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:46 am

Inflow is speeding up into that new tower.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#144 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:49 am

GCANE wrote:Inflow is speeding up into that new tower.



yeah llc looks to be building slightly east on radar into that convection that continues to build.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#145 Postby boca » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:49 am

It looks like we will stay dry according to wxman57 because I don’t see any west movement with 98l.Actually drifting north.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#146 Postby wxman57 » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:53 am

My first attempt at a track. Had to completely ignore the GFS, as it kept a low center in the Gulf for quite a while. Closer to the ECMWF for now. Will take a look at the 12Z model runs and update the track accordingly.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#147 Postby GCANE » Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:00 am

Nice radial cirrus outflow on the west side of that new tower.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#148 Postby NotSparta » Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:14 am

wxman57 wrote:
SFLcane wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Not a TD. Weak, elongated low pressure area. No organized convection. However, I do think that this will become Dorian as it tracks offshore of the Carolinas this weekend then heads out to sea like Chantal. I don't see any Gulf threat. Most of the rain should stay east of Florida.

http://wxman57.com/images/98La.JPG


Hey 57 so this models are incorrect? Most track 98L across the state.

https://i.imgur.com/fy4BXmd.png


The weak low is already well east of where the models had it for 15Z. Ignore the models starting with TA or C. The UKMET model (dark blue) looks good. Consensus model (starting with TV) is skewed left because the GFS takes it into the Gulf, which doesn't appear likely. Most convection should stay on the east side of the low. I think the center will skirt the coast of Florida over the next 24 hours then turn northeastward. TD/TS on Sunday, well east of the SC coast. May impact Nova Scotia or Newfoundland next week.


Even if it does get that far west it'll be rather weak anyway
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#149 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:16 am

GCANE wrote:Nice radial cirrus outflow on the west side of that new tower.


yeah best looking non TD/TC ever lol
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#150 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:28 am

Thumb ridge holding strong. it extends up through the 400 mb range. this is not going to be moving all too much .. except for center reformations/migrations.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#151 Postby alienstorm » Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:34 am

Per latest radar loop LLC appears to be 37 miles east of Miami.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#152 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:42 am

Convection is filling in around the center. Already a TC should be a TD later today offically.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#153 Postby nativefloridian » Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:47 am

Aric Dunn wrote:Convection is filling in around the center. Already a TC should be a TD later today offically.


Aric....could you give an approximate location of center. Thanks
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#154 Postby tolakram » Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:49 am

Aric Dunn wrote:Convection is filling in around the center. Already a TC should be a TD later today offically.


I think we are aware of your opinion Aric. :lol:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#155 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:51 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#156 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:53 am

tolakram wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:Convection is filling in around the center. Already a TC should be a TD later today offically.


I think we are aware of your opinion Aric. :lol:


You sure ? I can repeat it a few more times ? lol
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#157 Postby wxman57 » Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:56 am

Aric Dunn wrote:Convection is filling in around the center. Already a TC should be a TD later today offically.


Not sure how you justify that statement. Center is where I put the red crosshairs, with a surface trof extending SSW from there. Nothing to support TD status, much less TC status. Just a broad, elongated low pressure area with relatively light winds around it. Now, I do think it will develop, but it hasn't developed yet.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#158 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:01 am

wxman57 wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:Convection is filling in around the center. Already a TC should be a TD later today offically.


Not sure how you justify that statement. Center is where I put the red crosshairs, with a surface trof extending SSW from there. Nothing to support TD status, much less TC status. Just a broad, elongated low pressure area with relatively light winds around it. Now, I do think it will develop, but it hasn't developed yet.

http://wxman57.com/images/98Lb.JPG



Once upon a time, there was no convection near the center.. then "let there be convection" :P

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Hence convection building around the center.. still shallow and just initial development. so it wont show up on your pretty picture yet.. lol

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#159 Postby jlauderdal » Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:01 am

wxman57 wrote:My first attempt at a track. Had to completely ignore the GFS, as it kept a low center in the Gulf for quite a while. Closer to the ECMWF for now. Will take a look at the 12Z model runs and update the track accordingly.

http://wxman57.com/images/98LTrack.JPG
im preparing for a landfalling wxman 57 system
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#160 Postby GCANE » Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:12 am

Definitely tightening up on radar.
Cumulus over the glades looks to be turning more into the circulation.
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