ATL: DORIAN - Post-Tropical - Discussion
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion
This is definitely ramping up quickly. With that ASCAT pass, I wouldn't be surprised if gets classified sooner than expected. Dry air would mean less the faster this develops, and shear is low. This could even steal the name Dorian before 98L.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion
alienstorm wrote:https://twitter.com/Phinernie/status/1164912621327462400
Looks somewhat elongated to me and still embedded within the ITCZ.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion
This one is rather unique in it being projected to move at no more than about 3 degrees west in longitude per day in its WNW averaged track. For the current position (central MDR) in late August, that is unusually slow. I’d say that an average late August to early Sep WNW TC track in that area is probably close to double that or about 5-6 degrees west per day while moving WNW. Look back at historical storm tracks to verify. I’d say that a slow WNW central MDR movement like this is closer to the average much later in the season, say, in early Oct. when things tend to slow down on average in that area. If I get time, I’ll look at old maps to see if I can find slower late August movers in this area and see what they ultimately did.
Any thoughts about this?
Any thoughts about this?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion
It's a 99L, it won't form until September

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion
LarryWx wrote:This one is rather unique in it being projected to move at no more than about 3 degrees west in longitude per day in its WNW averaged track. For the current position (central MDR) in late August, that is unusually slow. I’d say that an average late August to early Sep WNW TC track in that area is probably close to double that or about 5-6 degrees west per day while moving WNW. Look back at historical storm tracks to verify. I’d say that a slow WNW central MDR movement like this is closer to the average much later in the season, say, in early Oct. when things tend to slow down on average in that area. If I get time, I’ll look at old maps to see if I can find slower late August movers in this area and see what they ultimately did.
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The Bermuda high is forecast to break down as a result of 98L / a passing trough in SE Canada as well as an ULL forming well to the north of 99L. The net steering flow remains weakly westward since no big trough is swinging down into the western Atlantic anytime soon. So I guess that would match up with later fall generally when you have disruption of the Bermuda / Azores High.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion
NotSparta wrote:
It's a 99L, it won't form until September
Wasn’t pre-Hermime (2016) the dreaded 99L that lasted forever?

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion
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Very useful information on the Dvorak Technique --
https://severe.worldweather.wmo.int/TCF ... kBeven.pdf
https://severe.worldweather.wmo.int/TCF ... kBeven.pdf
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion
TheStormExpert wrote:NotSparta wrote:
It's a 99L, it won't form until September
Wasn’t pre-Hermime (2016) the dreaded 99L that lasted forever?
Yes, then was Gert in 2017
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion
Wow the satellite appearance of this one has caught me by surprise this morning. The basin is definitely coming alive before our eyes.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion
I feel a little iffy about this. At least it appears that this already got many people's attention.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion
Based on the ASCAT, I am of the belief that this is already a closed Low Level Cyclone. This is a TD in my educated analysis now.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion
This is very likely thanks to the kelvin wave that just passed the Atlantic, will likely struggle at some point in the future especially as it detaches from the ITCZ.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion
Who has a guess of which invest will become Dorian first?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion
Calendar + this disturbance + 98L likely = the end of season cancel season and the real meat and potatoes of whatever 2019 is going to throw at us. This one looks decent right now but I certainly wouldn't blame the NHC for being a bit reticent to pull the trigger owing to the location and sometimes transient nature of formative disturbances. Nevertheless...this is likely a go at some point and if it ends up near or north of the greater Antilles it will be in that subtropical hot zone many of us have been expecting to ultimately be productive this season. Things are getting a lot less boring..
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion
Kazmit wrote:Who has a guess of which invest will become Dorian first?
This is actually going to be a close one to gauge. 99L imo is already a TD and is well on its to becoming a TS. May be one this weekend.
98L will probably become a TD in the next 24 hours.
This will be a close one. I will hedge a guess 99L will become Dorian quicker than 98L. Its more organized and developed than 98L as well currently. Make this a separate thread of its own.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion
It is definitely getting that look.


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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion
It looks like it is already a TS to me.
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