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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#241 Postby Cpv17 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:07 pm

DioBrando wrote:Are there any anticyclones near the gulf?


There’s an upper low over the NE Gulf moving west that will tug this into the Gulf.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#242 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:07 pm

SouthDadeFish wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:18z euro.. hurricane 75mph into Melbourne

well 73.32 mph. lol

https://i.ibb.co/xz07vYq/us-model-en-087-0-modezrpd-2019091118-81-8838-460.png


Those are the 925 mb winds. Surface winds would likely be at least 20% less than that.


The 925 mb was dead on with Berry and Dorian.

well within a margin of error. 65 to 75 mph... either way its stronger by good deal with more of an upper high building over it.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#243 Postby SFLcane » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:08 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#244 Postby GCANE » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:15 pm

PV Ring is closing up.
UL Trough to the west just needs to move away a bit, which it will.
Looks like it found a sweet spot, in terms of shear, to fire off.


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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#245 Postby DioBrando » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:16 pm

GCANE wrote:PV Ring is closing up.
UL Trough to the west just needs to move away a bit, which it will.
Looks like it found a sweet spot, in terms of shear, to fire off.


https://i.imgur.com/TcsnP0a.png

https://i.imgur.com/GvzzVit.png

https://i.imgur.com/WDW3UnK.png

What if this....
RI's?!?!

And shear drops off and this gets pulled into the gulf??
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#246 Postby SunnyThoughts » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:22 pm

Well one thing is for sure, looks like a few places are gonna see some rain. We sure could use some here in Santa Rosa County Fla ( One county east of Pensacola). Hopefully the major impact is just rain with not much wind to speak of when all is said and done.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#247 Postby GCANE » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:25 pm

DioBrando wrote:
GCANE wrote:PV Ring is closing up.
UL Trough to the west just needs to move away a bit, which it will.
Looks like it found a sweet spot, in terms of shear, to fire off.


https://i.imgur.com/TcsnP0a.png

https://i.imgur.com/GvzzVit.png

https://i.imgur.com/WDW3UnK.png

What if this....
RI's?!?!

And shear drops off and this gets pulled into the gulf??


Systems with strong updrafts do push shear out of the way.
The air hits the tropopause and fans out in all directions.

Convection has been firing lightning virtually continuously.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#248 Postby wxman57 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:28 pm

GeneratorPower wrote:
wxman57 wrote:We initiated advisories this morning. I believe that the NHC needs development chances for the first 48 hrs to reach 70% to initiate PTC advisories for "Nine". Could be tomorrow. For now, we're close to the TVCN (not having seen it first). Pensacola with a weak TS. Track has a much better chance of shifting east than west. More time over Florida would mean weaker.


I suppose it’s wait and see for South FL then. What do you think about intensity possibilities on FL landfall?


For S. Florida - a disturbance, only increased rainfall. Strong SW wind shear up until it passes Florida. Well, alarm set for 4:30. Need to be at work by 5:30 through Monday. Good night.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#249 Postby DioBrando » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:29 pm

GCANE wrote:
DioBrando wrote:
GCANE wrote:PV Ring is closing up.
UL Trough to the west just needs to move away a bit, which it will.
Looks like it found a sweet spot, in terms of shear, to fire off.


https://i.imgur.com/TcsnP0a.png

https://i.imgur.com/GvzzVit.png

https://i.imgur.com/WDW3UnK.png

What if this....
RI's?!?!

And shear drops off and this gets pulled into the gulf??


Systems with strong updrafts do push shear out of the way.
The air hits the tropopause and fans out in all directions.

Convection has been firing lightning virtually continuously.

I mean... I'm now worried.... about the possibility this storm shifts further west...
If an anticyclone builds up...

I'm concerned about an RI event
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#250 Postby Evil Jeremy » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:37 pm

DioBrando wrote:I'm concerned about an RI event


8 hours ago, you said "I just can't see this being named". That's quite a flip... not sure all that much has changed today.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#251 Postby DioBrando » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:38 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:
DioBrando wrote:I'm concerned about an RI event


8 hours ago, you said "I just can't see this being named". That's quite a flip... not sure all that much has changed today.

Was talking with someone today in real life who brought this idea onto the table.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#252 Postby GCANE » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:38 pm

DioBrando wrote:
GCANE wrote:
DioBrando wrote:What if this....
RI's?!?!

And shear drops off and this gets pulled into the gulf??


Systems with strong updrafts do push shear out of the way.
The air hits the tropopause and fans out in all directions.

Convection has been firing lightning virtually continuously.

I mean... I'm now worried.... about the possibility this storm shifts further west...
If an anticyclone builds up...

I'm concerned about an RI event


The limiting factor I see is that this does not have a lot of TPW air to feed off.
At this point, only a weak feed thru the Windward passage.
Dorian had a lot more and was virtually drinking the juice out of the east GOM.
This one is cut off from the GOM.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#253 Postby Frank P » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:49 pm

Well its appearance tonight on the IR is not very impressive and it sure looks like it’s taking its sweet time wherever it’s going... just an ugly robust wave att
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#254 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:49 pm

That vort/circ i pointed out earlier at sunset just started to fire some deep convection.
Convection from cuba has collapsed and the sw inflow has likely resumed.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#255 Postby Blown Away » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:57 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:18z euro.. hurricane 75mph into Melbourne

well 73.32 mph. lol

https://i.ibb.co/xz07vYq/us-model-en-087-0-modezrpd-2019091118-81-8838-460.png


With Irma Euro predicted 100 mph winds for Stuart, I didn’t believe it being Irma was on W coast of FL. NWS confirmed 100 mph gust in Stuart. Euro was dead on with the gust map just like the one you posted...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#256 Postby SFLcane » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:14 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#257 Postby Blown Away » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:27 pm

Tomorrow SFL could move into TS Warning and possible Hurricane Watch based on Euro... Everyone has Dorian fatigue here...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#258 Postby tgenius » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:47 pm

IF it does develop it’s gonna surprise a lot of people, even though should only be a TS at max (minus the new euro cat1 run into Melbourne) but no one is expecting this. It had a lil bit of Katrina forming where everyone in SFL basically saw it form midday one day and people were driving home in the wind and rain after being let go early.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#259 Postby storm_in_a_teacup » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:47 pm

GCANE wrote:
DioBrando wrote:
GCANE wrote:
Systems with strong updrafts do push shear out of the way.
The air hits the tropopause and fans out in all directions.

Convection has been firing lightning virtually continuously.

I mean... I'm now worried.... about the possibility this storm shifts further west...
If an anticyclone builds up...

I'm concerned about an RI event


The limiting factor I see is that this does not have a lot of TPW air to feed off.
At this point, only a weak feed thru the Windward passage.
Dorian had a lot more and was virtually drinking the juice out of the east GOM.
This one is cut off from the GOM.


What does TPW mean?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#260 Postby Hurricaneman » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:50 pm

TPW means the amount of moisture in the atmosphere and it’s not as high as a tropical cyclone would like but is adequate enough for development
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