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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2521 Postby AutoPenalti » Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:39 am

06z concludes with a WSW turn at the end of the run.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2522 Postby ronjon » Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:40 am

The 06z Euro is a full degree east on longitude than 0z and south by almost as much on latitude. If this slowing trend continues, the storm might stay off the east coast...
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2523 Postby StormingB81 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:41 am

SEASON_CANCELED wrote:
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tolakram wrote:The euro keeps sending it more south so even if the ridge breaks down it's going to be difficult to escape a landfall. What a nailbiter.



I hope it doesn't ride the whole coast...evacuations would be even messier and could mean more winds all up the coast!



Whoa That is a possibly scary setup for the west coast of florida


Well I was thinking east coast riding Florida than all the way up to Carolina's...That would be very worst case scenario
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2524 Postby USTropics » Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:41 am

The reason for the SW dip can be easier seen on the 00z high-res ECMWF images (https://weather.us/model-charts/euro/mi ... 0300z.html). The periphery of the southwestern edge of the ridge really digs in:

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Meanwhile, same time frame as GFS, the periphery is more rounded, with a more WNW flow:
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2525 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:42 am

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I hope it doesn't ride the whole coast...evacuations would be even messier and could mean more winds all up the coast!



Whoa That is a possibly scary setup for the west coast of florida


Well I was thinking east coast riding Florida than all the way up to Carolina's...That would be very worst case scenario


Well it looks like it may wanna dip through the florida straight and head up to the panhandle
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2526 Postby NDG » Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:44 am

If the trend by the Euro continuing to slow down continues will definitely be good news for it to head north before reaching the SE FL Coast.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2527 Postby Weatherboy1 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:49 am

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stormlover2013 wrote:I have a feeling gfs corrects it self at 12z or tonight or euro does


06z GFS already corrected itself from the 00z run with a shift south to the cape - I'd expect a more southern approach on the 12z toward maybe Melbourne - perhaps Euro will go to Vero Beach - and then we'd have pretty good consensus 4 days out.


Yes, that was a pretty notable shift toward the consensus of several other models. If it continues at the 12z cycle, think it really raises the risk to east central/south FL
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2528 Postby chris_fit » Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:50 am

06z GFS Ens - Many still go into the Gulf - Only 3 recurves

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2529 Postby supercane4867 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:50 am

The SW dip that euro is depicting actually makes meteorological sense. Many TCs in the past have went southwesterly before turning north
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2530 Postby chris_fit » Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:52 am

supercane4867 wrote:The SW dip that euro is depicting actually makes meteorological sense. Many TCs in the past have went southwesterly before turning north



On the Contrary, many have gone into the Gulf after a WSW movement. I think the slowndown/stall is more significant new trend in the models rather than the WSW movement.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2531 Postby toad strangler » Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:52 am

It's amazing reading the 180 degree different perceptions many of us have on this slow down.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2532 Postby WeatherEmperor » Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:55 am

toad strangler wrote:It's amazing reading the 180 degree different perceptions many of us have on this slow down.


I agree. It makes my head spin


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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2533 Postby drewschmaltz » Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:55 am

toad strangler wrote:It's amazing reading the 180 degree different perceptions many of us have on this slow down.



It's amazing reading the 180 degree different perceptions many of the models have on this slow down.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2534 Postby stormlover2013 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:56 am

Could miss the weakness and end in gulf
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2535 Postby SFLcane » Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:57 am

Growing consensus this could be a cat 4 on approach to FL.

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2536 Postby Evil Jeremy » Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:58 am

toad strangler wrote:It's amazing reading the 180 degree different perceptions many of us have on this slow down.


It helps when you have such large disagreement in the ensembles four days out
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2537 Postby ronjon » Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:00 am

Both the GFS and ECM ensembles are not showing any signs of the system staying off the coast - in fact, the opposite with many still taking Dorian to the GOM.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2538 Postby p1nheadlarry » Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:09 am

stormlover2013 wrote:Could miss the weakness and end in gulf


Might depend on just how weak the steering becomes and the storm's size and intensity if it makes landfall.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2539 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:09 am

Have the feeling we are going to see the GFS cave to the more southerly solution in either 12 or 18z. Last few runs have shown signs of a correction southward.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2540 Postby Jonny » Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:13 am

Looks like things have become even more uncertain.

Some say it'll skip the gulf while others still consider the possibility.
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