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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#341 Postby ronjon » Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:47 am

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SFLcane wrote:In terms of the SE lets hope this does indeed gets tangled with haiti because this one is not turning.

https://i.imgur.com/UpMrCF0.png


This is what I am looking at today. Mainly because this is the most significant synoptic feature that will factor in down the road. 2 days ago it looked like Caribbean shear (ULL) and flow from that big Texas high were going to inhibit development...well we're in a different spot now. The position of the "Bermuda high" and as some have named the "thumb ridge" is to be watched on the Euro and new GFS in my opinion and even the NAM for meso scale as we get into Wed or so of this week. That said, if I was betting on this storm, it would be that it will end still to the right of the current Euro run 5-6 out. Shooting the mona passage seems plausible, but it's pretty rare for the FL east cost to see a storm landfall at that vector. A recurve with no US landfall is still a reasonable solution. There also appears to be an ULL south of Bermuda dropping down that could meet Dorian near Hispaniola and inhibit development.


Except for Frances and Jeanne in 2004 as many of us on this board remember. Angle is not that unusual considering historical track history.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#342 Postby Hurricaneman » Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:47 am

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tolakram wrote:If this happens hopefully we'll see a recurve before landfall. No consistency at the moment.


Hopefully so - but as of now, not with strong 500 mb ridging anchoring itself in a thumb from the SW Atlantic to north Florida in the ECM this Saturday.


We’re prepared for this whether or not it’s a hurricane or not, prepared back in March so we wouldn’t get stuck in long lines but the models are quite concerning
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#343 Postby NDG » Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:57 am

Evil Jeremy wrote:The model I'll be watching the closest over the next 48 hours is the UKMET. While GFS and ECMWF kept dissipating in the NE Caribbean, and others rammed Dorian into the Hispaniola Meat Grinder, the UKMET has been consistant in forecasting Dorian moving North of Hispaniola. I often think UKMET gets lost in the "model wars". Time and time again when it holds firm with a scenario that's a relative outlier but not beyond reason, the other models come around.


UKMET is not a bad model, its problem has been with overdoing the strength of ridges, thus its west biased solutions, so I am not surprised by its solution of taking Dorian into the GOM. At this point this far out it could be either right or wrong.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#344 Postby plasticup » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:10 am

CMC putting this into the GoM in 10 days.
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#345 Postby stormlover2013 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:15 am

to be honest with yall, GFS and Euro have struggled this year long range wise
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#346 Postby chris_fit » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:15 am

Screenshot from my Google Earth showing many ensembles...

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#347 Postby hohnywx » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:18 am

chris_fit wrote:Screenshot from my Google Earth showing many ensembles...

https://i.imgur.com/YW4faB4.png


Ensembles of what? Without context, it might as well be colored markers on a map.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#348 Postby chris_fit » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:20 am

hohnywx wrote:
chris_fit wrote:Screenshot from my Google Earth showing many ensembles...

https://i.imgur.com/YW4faB4.png


Ensembles of what? Without context, it might as well be colored markers on a map.

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#349 Postby ColdMiser123 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:34 am

A significantly stronger 12z ICON run thus far compared to 0z/6z. Another nudge north, but the mid level ridge won't allow for any kind of escape east.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#350 Postby chris_fit » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:37 am

ColdMiser123 wrote:A significantly stronger 12z ICON run thus far compared to 0z/6z. Another nudge north, but the mid level ridge won't allow for any kind of escape east.


Wow, almost misses PR to the EAST.

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#351 Postby toad strangler » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:39 am

ICON moving due W through the S Bahamas at 126
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#352 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:41 am

Gfs initializes it good then kills it 12 to 24 hours down to a weak ts. Lol
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#353 Postby toad strangler » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:42 am

ICON continues due W and crashes into the N Cuba coast, rides it, and weakens before emerging into the GOM.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#354 Postby chris_fit » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:43 am

toad strangler wrote:ICON continues due W and crashes into the N Cuba coast, rides it, and gets ripped apart.


Agree, Yes, Indeed, Not seeing the ripped apart though.

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#355 Postby b0tzy29 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:45 am

chris_fit wrote:Screenshot from my Google Earth showing many ensembles...

https://i.imgur.com/YW4faB4.png


Out of curiosity, how do you get the model overlay on google earth. I have the NHC overlay but i don't see the model options like you do.

Thanks!
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#356 Postby toad strangler » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:45 am

chris_fit wrote:
toad strangler wrote:ICON continues due W and crashes into the N Cuba coast, rides it, and gets ripped apart.


Agree, Yes, Indeed, Not seeing the ripped apart though.

https://i.imgur.com/yMUVdYs.png


Weakens before popping out into the GOM. The vort looks ripped more than what MSLP shows.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#357 Postby chris_fit » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:46 am

b0tzy29 wrote:
chris_fit wrote:Screenshot from my Google Earth showing many ensembles...

https://i.imgur.com/YW4faB4.png


Out of curiosity, how do you get the model overlay on google earth. I have the NHC overlay but i don't see the model options like you do.

Thanks!



See Here: https://apps.sfwmd.gov/sfwmd/common/ima ... plots.html
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#358 Postby ColdMiser123 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:49 am

Big discrepancy between the GFS and the GFS Legacy through 54 hours.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#359 Postby ronjon » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:50 am

Aric Dunn wrote:Gfs initializes it good then kills it 12 to 24 hours down to a weak ts. Lol


12z legacy has it 1000 mb about to move NW across PR in 54 hrs.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#360 Postby Blown Away » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:50 am

ColdMiser123 wrote:Big discrepancy between the GFS and the GFS Legacy through 54 hours.


Can’t discount GFS...
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